Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

Aron Ra on Gods, Demons, and the Meaning of Life

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 20. 2 Replies

This isn't quite a rant, but it's more than just a talk or a speech.  What follows here is the end of something Aron Ra delivered several years ago which has stuck with me practically since I first…Continue

Tags: soul, bible, skeptic, devil, god

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Comment by Patricia on January 31, 2019 at 1:55pm

I have the book.....horrid ''person''.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 31, 2019 at 6:16am

MT [Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction.
-- Christopher Hitchens

There are few things that disgust me quite so much as the Catholic Church's rushed sanctification of Agnes Bojaxhiu, a.k.a. "Mother Teresa." Her failure to actually treat those she cared for, her twisted fascination with suffering, and her dependence on and flattery for Charles Keating and the Duvaliers should disqualify her from any kind of recognition of humanistic achievement. Then, too, while the RCC is many things, "humanistic" is not one of them.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 30, 2019 at 9:32pm

Even worse, Bertold, "plastic" represents a waste of a limited resource which is too often produced and used without thought, then discarded and which, though some may be supposedly recycled, is exceptionally difficult to truly do so.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 30, 2019 at 11:42am

I don't want to believe; I want to know.
-- Carl Sagan

Absolutely. If holding beliefs which align with reality is knowing, then knowing becomes the preferable status of input that I would care to accept ... because I can't see any belief that does NOT conform to reality as having ANY serious utility or practical application.

Comment by Plinius on January 30, 2019 at 10:22am

Joan - my PC had the hiccups, so I'm rather late answering.

I'm lesbian because my partner is changing gender, and it's my choice to stand with her, so I'm lesbian by choice. But the labels don't mean much to us, meaningful is that we spent 41 years growing, loving and learning together, and we won't separate because of this.

Transgenders have no choice about the gender they feel they are.

I think transgenders who are honest with themselves have a choice about how they live: they can ignore their own feelings and go on pretending to play a role that doesn't fit. Or they can ignore what people think of them and find their happiness in showing what they are.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 29, 2019 at 7:16am

Nothing draws people more quickly away from religion than an open mind.
-- Hemant Mehta

I would say so, Hemant, that plus a genuine sense of curiosity and a desire to know the truth.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 28, 2019 at 4:21pm

Very true, GC.  I have yet to hear Yahweh declare from the skies:

KNOCK THAT OFF!!!

or something of that nature.  It's as I've said before: it's always man talking, never the deity, and as long as that's the case, I have NO reason to give the deity ANY credence.

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 28, 2019 at 4:01pm

"Why should the 'Law of God' have any standing?"

Especially when the enforcement of such "laws" is indistinguishable from human action without any gods. (Even if there were a natural force encouraging or enforcing those "laws", then if they were as posited by many religions, it would be our moral duty to resist it.)

Our human judgment is all there is.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 28, 2019 at 6:20am

When the "law" of a god includes rampant ignorance (proscriptions on pork and shellfish), never mind misogyny and homophobia, when it treats almost ANY transgression as worthy of death and when the prescribed mechanisms of execution are so barbaric as to be beyond modern-day consideration ... in short, when man's judgment can be more lenient, more willing to consider details, situations, and nuances, in short, more humane while at the same time, finding at least general consensus among those governed, WHY Should The "Law of God" Have ANY STANDING?
-- me

Anyone got an answer?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on January 27, 2019 at 1:14pm
It is high time for Americans, especially those concerned about women’s rights, to cease pretending that America is not lurching towards a theocracy. All of these vile Republican policies attacking women’s rights have only one source – religion.

Something Rmuse

Judge blocks Trump’s evangelical assault on women in 13 states

 

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