Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful


Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 21, 2018 at 6:03am

Loren, I agree, David Frum wrote a powerful piece that is well worth the time and effort to read. He is a conservative Republican and writes compellingly.   

Comment by Loren Miller on July 21, 2018 at 5:45am

Bertold and Joan, that David Frum quote was part of a paragraph which had some very important things to say regarding the Republican party and conservatism in general, and it deserves a full citation:

Maybe you do not much care about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy. The stability of American society depends on conservatives’ ability to find a way forward from the Trump dead end, toward a conservatism that cannot only win elections but also govern responsibly, a conservatism that is culturally modern, economically inclusive, and environmentally responsible, that upholds markets at home and U.S. leadership internationally.
-- David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 21, 2018 at 1:55am

An Exit From Trumpocracy


"The stability of American society depends on conservatives finding a way forward from the Trump dead end."

~ David Frum, The Atlantic, JAN 18, 2018.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 21, 2018 at 1:51am

Loren, Paul corrected the Corinthians’ misconception of our liberty as believers under the New Covenant.

In 1 Corinthians 6:12."We are free from the Law of Moses, we are free from condemnation, we have enormous freedom, but we are not free to break the law of love—love toward God and toward our fellow man."

In 1 Corinthians 10:23: “All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but not all things build up."

At the end of 10:23, “build up” comes from the Greek word, oikodomeō, which literally means “to build a house.”

"all things are lawful, but not all things build up the house."

Comment by Loren Miller on July 20, 2018 at 4:38pm

The question is begged with that, Joan:

Constructive For WHOM???

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2018 at 2:52pm

Bertold, there is a strange philosophy in religion, at least in the congregations to which I belonged. 

◄ 1 Corinthians 10:23 ►
New International Version
"'I have the right to do anything,' you say--but not everything is beneficial. "' have the right to do anything' - but not everything is constructive.'"

This gives the believer the right to lie, cheat, dominate, own slaves, win at all costs UNLESS IT IS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE. This qualifier phrase can be used to justify any thought or action. 

Comment by Loren Miller on July 20, 2018 at 1:58pm

Entirely too likely, Bertold, entirely TOO likely.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 20, 2018 at 1:21pm

Comment by Loren Miller on July 20, 2018 at 6:09am

I have always considered "Pascal's Wager" a questionable bet to place, since any God worth believing in would prefer an honest agnostic to a calculating hypocrite.
― Alan M. Dershowitz

That's presuming the god in question hasn't become fetishistic about his own rules, and sadly, Yahweh fits that description.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2018 at 1:38am

I perceive belief as a powerful force that fuels behavior. Why do some people climb the highest mountain or dive into the deepest ocean? Or why do some individuals train to be doctors, carpenters, or nurses? Or those who commit those horrid crimes, i.e. kidnap the Lindbergh baby, or assassinate John Kennedy or fly planes into buildings; or those who reach for the stars; or those who write books, or sing, or dance? What about those who use violence in their homes and those who do not? There are those who replicate the values of their families and society and those who reject the values of the status quo.



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