Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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The Founding Myth: A Striking Quote

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 4. 4 Replies

Over the last couple of weeks, I have been reading Andrew L. Seidel’s excellent book, The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is UN-AMERICAN. Barely four chapters in, Seidel has already…Continue

Tags: rights, The Founding Myth, Seidel, Andrew

"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

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Comment by Plinius on November 21, 2019 at 1:33am

Well said, James Randi, but don't accuse non-existant beings. They're not there.

Comment by Patricia on November 21, 2019 at 12:21am

James Randi  

"I hereby state my opinion that the notion of a god is a basic superstition, that there is no evidence for the existence of any god(s), that devils, demons angels and saints are myths, that there is no life after death, heaven nor hell, that the Pope is a dangerous, bigoted, medieval dinosaur, and that the Holy Ghost is a comic book character worthy of laughter and derision. I accuse the Christian god of murder by allowing the Holocaust to take place, and I condemn and vilify this mythical deity for encouraging racial prejudice and commanding the degradation of women."

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 20, 2019 at 2:33pm

"Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves."

Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

If asked to dream up a god, I would imagine him/her/it to be a teacher with high standards. well defined. He/she/it would be devoted to building bridges between people and nations. This non-god leads in the search for finding common interests, identifying problems to jointly solve. There would be no need for war or domination, every voice would be heard, all options considered, unmet needs addressed. This godless teacher guides in creating plans designed to meet conflicting needs. Action plans and experiments would be valued and encouraged. Each plan would be evaluated based on the wellbeing of all participants. Ideas that eliminate poverty, hunger, homelessness, and diseases would be at a high priority for thought and action. Explorations that lifted human life and environmental health would be celebrated. The commitment of he/she/it brings all who live on the planet justice, peace, and wellbeing. All flourish to their highest potential. 

Dream on Joan.

That is what the Founding Parents did, i.e. they wanted no king, queen, lord, preacher, or potentate to be in control. They wanted freedom and independence from them, and they fought terrible battles to achieve those ends. Blacks, Native Americans, and women had to fight similar battles to achieve freedom and independence to make those values universal to all citizens. 

~ Me

Comment by Loren Miller on November 20, 2019 at 6:48am

The finger of the atheists' own divinity, Reason, wrote on the wall the appalling judgments that there is no God; that the universe is only matter in spontaneous motion; and, most grievous word of all, that what men call their souls die with the death of the body, as music dies when the strings are broken.
― John Morley, Diderot and the Encyclopaedists

Hard truth. Not comforting or reassuring as the lie of everlasting life in Yahweh's heaven theme park. Its virtue lies in its being far more credible than the Fantasyland portrayed by the bible and in that it makes THIS life the proper focus of our attention and not some pie in the sky afterlife.

Comment by Patricia on November 19, 2019 at 1:04pm

Agreed.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 19, 2019 at 9:37am

And related to yours, Patricia, something I've posted more than once around A|N:

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

Comment by Loren Miller on November 19, 2019 at 8:27am

Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proved innocent.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

And considering the perversities which too many of that ilk have committed and others of their club have tolerated, I'd say the preemptive judgment is not just deserved but overdue.

Comment by Patricia on November 19, 2019 at 12:31am

This sounds so familiar...the white(cough)house......

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 18, 2019 at 3:44pm

Loren, Matt's quote excellently sums up an honest search for knowledge.

Joan, many Unitarians don't consider themselves Christians, and quite a few nontheists feel comfortable in Unitarian churches. (I know one, and understand that there's a great deal of variation between individual congregations.)

Comment by Loren Miller on November 18, 2019 at 5:38am

My lack of an answer doesn't make your answer correct.
-- Matt Dillahunty

Matt is well-known to be willing to say, "I don't know" when confronted with a question he genuinely hasn't the answer to. This is also the man who has said repeatedly, "I want to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible," reflecting his desire to be as rationally HONEST as possible. Would that believers were as honest!

 

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