Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

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Comment by Loren Miller on May 15, 2018 at 6:45am

A corollary to your Harris quote, Homer:

There's no one whose views are not subject to question.
-- Lawrence Krauss

That one continues to be a biggie with me, and for good reason.

Comment by Homer Edward Price on May 15, 2018 at 6:41am

To requote Sam Harris, 

Rational, open-ended, honest inquiry has always been the true source of insight into such [moral] processes.

That was the method used the Quakers in their meetings; they thought their ideas were implanted in them by God, but they were really using their own minds, unfettered by religious dogma. It was also the method used by Thomas Clarkson in England.

Joan mentioned the Enlightenment; the man who thought through its political implications most thoroughly was Thomas Jefferson.  He really believed that slavery was immoral, and he considered black people to be morally equal to whites, though he doubted that were intellectually equal.  But his early calls for legal emancipation in Virginia got no traction, and he decided that it was politically a non-starter.  Worse, he could not afford to emancipate his own slaves because of the heavy debts that he had inherited from his wife's father.  Many of Jefferson's slaves had to be sold after his own death to pay those debts.  

Comment by Loren Miller on May 15, 2018 at 5:10am

The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
-- Albert Einstein

Albert pretty much  nails it here, though I wouldn't give the bible any great amount of credit for being "honorable."

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 14, 2018 at 11:21pm

If you can stand going to that Faux News page (I did it in private/incognito mode so cookies etc. wouldn't stick around), JHarringtonDev's comment deserves more upvotes!

Comment by Patricia on May 14, 2018 at 10:30pm

That's a great write up, GC.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 14, 2018 at 10:25pm

Beautiful and inspired response, GC. Thanks for sharing.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 14, 2018 at 10:15pm

Man ... what we got here is a failure to understand words ... definitions ... usages ... never mind any semblance of what atheism is.  Someone explain to me PLEASE how the rejection of a belief is, by itself, a belief of its own.  And GC, your contribution nails it.  The only problem is that the believers not only don't get it, they don't WANT to get it ... because they'd have to admit that their belief is a lie in the end.  For them, that's a bridge too far.

If anyone wants prima facie evidence of just how SCARED believers are ... well, here ya go.

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 14, 2018 at 10:04pm

DeStefano's book title calling atheism a "religion" displays his qualifications loud and clear... The first comment on that massive piece of projection that the Fox site showed me deserves to be quoted:

Well, he has a point.

I mean I get sick of atheists coming to my door trying to convert me to atheism. I get sick of seeing The God Delusion in every hotel room. I hate how they have to have their big capital "A" on everything, every street corner, hanging around their necks, on every mountaintop they can arrogate to their belief system. I hate how they corner me in the lunchroom and tell me I need Darwin in my life.

I hate how they put into law in almost every state that religious people can't run for public office. I hate how they fought for decades to deny other people the right to marry. How they made people hide their sexuality or be fired or evicted ... simply because they disagreed with it. How they even attempt to force their beliefs into people's private medical decisions. I hate how atheists fly airplanes into buildings, fight for decades over what happens to a wafer on Sundays, and invade other lands and force the inhabitants to think like they do.

I hate how they put "In No God We Trust" on our money. I hate how they force my children to say "under no God" in a daily pledge. I hate how atheists routinely disown their children when they become religious and force them to live on the street ... to the point that cities have to set up special programs just to deal with this problem. And I really hate how they tell everyone who disagrees with them that they deserve to be tortured forever.

Oh wait.

(by JHarringtonDev)

Comment by Patricia on May 14, 2018 at 8:54pm

Well if someone wants to think I'm dangerous.......

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 14, 2018 at 8:48pm

"Atheists today are the most arrogant, ignorant and dangerous people on earth."

"There’s no polite way to say it. Atheists today are the most arrogant, ignorant and dangerous people on earth."

So begins Anthony DeStefano's op-ed for Fox News, throughout which he claims that atheists are responsible for the vast majority of humanity's suffering, wars, death, and destruction.

Adapted from his book, Inside the Atheist Mind: Unmasking the Religion of Those Who Say There is No God, DeStefano shares myriad examples of not only how terrible atheists have been all through history but also how today's atheists are bullies who try to force their beliefs upon others.

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Projection much??

 

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