Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius on Sunday. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jul 2. 3 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 5, 2018 at 8:49am

A good world needs knowledge, kindliness and courage; it does not need a regretful hankering after the past or a fettering of the free intelligence by the words uttered long ago by ignorant men. 

--Bertrand Russell

Comment by Loren Miller on April 5, 2018 at 7:17am

If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all.
-- Noam Chomsky

Not a huge fan of Chomsky here, but in this case, he's is on the nose.  Having freedom of speech as a right means having to tolerate speech you don't like ... and a corollary of that is:

Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters.
-- Rosa Luxemburg

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 4, 2018 at 3:33pm
"We kill at every step, not only in wars, riots, and executions. We kill when we close our eyes to poverty, suffering, and shame. In the same way all disrespect for life, all hard-heartedness, all indifference, all contempt is nothing else than killing. With just a little witty skepticism we can kill a good deal of the future in a young person." : - Hermann Hesse, German poet, and novelist.
When is enough, enough? Clothes, piles, and piles of clothes stacked to be given away to be replaced by more clothes!
When is enough, enough? Pots, pans, and skillets of one elite brand, and added pots, pans, and skillets of another elite brand! 
I write of the growing gap between rich and poor and learn that I am "negative!" 
When is the distinction made between being "informed" and being "negative?"
"We kill when we close our eyes to poverty, suffering, and shame."

Comment by Loren Miller on April 4, 2018 at 6:34am

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind, and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect.
-- James Madison

Sounds very much like William Blake's "mind-forged manacle" which Christopher Hitchens so often cited.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 3, 2018 at 8:33am

And re: Gwen Hutchings ... Oh, SNAP! [chortle!]

Comment by Loren Miller on April 3, 2018 at 8:32am

Bertold, it should surprise no one that evangelical Christianity has a problem with rock 'n' roll.  R&R is about, among other things, rebellion against authority, and what is the longest standing authority out there?  The Church.  As for revenge fantasy, wasn't it Thomas Aquinas who suggested that one of the pleasures of heaven would be looking down on the damned?

These guys desperately want to paint a scenario where they're 100% right in the end, and everyone who disagrees with them gets their comeuppance.  Problem is, there is no rational reason that leads to that conclusion.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 3, 2018 at 8:31am

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 3, 2018 at 7:40am

There are also a lot of resentments that fuel evangelicalism. (I’m thinking in particular of Billy Graham’s son, Franklin, and his bellicosity.) I think you can see this in end-times theology as a kind of revenge fantasy in which all of your enemies will get their just desserts. Maybe I’m reading too much into this and the new reality that we live in, but I don’t think it should be too surprising that evangelicals rushed to the side of Trump. He speaks in the same language of the culture war and resentment/grievance that they have harbored for a very long time.


Randall J Stevens, In an interview about his new book,
The Devil’s Music: How Christians Inspired, Condemned, and Embraced Rock ‘n’ Roll

[Full Interview here]

Comment by Loren Miller on April 3, 2018 at 7:27am

When ideologies render mistaken ideas untouchable, even sacred, they guarantee ongoing human conflict, because critical thinkers are bound to carry on identifying those mistakes, generation after generation.
-- TheraminTrees, on dogma

The above quote is part of an excellent presentation on the issue of dogma, recently released by TheraminTrees, with his brother, QualiaSoup. Absolutely worth your time.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 2, 2018 at 9:17pm

Thanks for passing through this space, Gwaithmir.  Please feel free to do so more often.  You've been missed.

 

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