Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller 13 hours ago. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller yesterday. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent

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Comment by Loren Miller on January 7, 2018 at 6:09pm

Now, now, you two. Play nice!

Comment by Chris on January 7, 2018 at 6:07pm

Patricia yesterday

We are now reading that book, & it is an eye-opener from the first chapter, & I am only on chapter 3 now. Lots to try to absorb. Rick has just read the prologue so far.

We?  

Who is "WE?"

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 7, 2018 at 4:22pm

“The only thing that one really knows about human nature is that it changes. Change is the one quality we can predicate of it. The systems that fail are those that rely on the permanency of human nature, and not on its growth and development. The error of Louis XIV was that he thought human nature would always be the same. The result of his error was the French Revolution. It was an admirable result.”

~ Oscar Wilde

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 7, 2018 at 3:10pm

I think there is a third factor, a sense of community, that keeps people dependent on religion. 

Religion maintains and perpetuates submissiveness as a high value and individuals obviously believe superstitions because it meets some unmet needs. 

The Enlightenment offers individuals and communities the opportunity to shun myths and encourage doubt, questioning, and rational thought. 

“the Great Awakening promoted a fervent, emotional religiosity, while the Enlightenment encouraged the pursuit of reason in all things. On both sides of the Atlantic, British subjects grappled with these new ideas.

The Great Awakening/The Enlightenment 

http://philschatz.com/us-history-book/contents/m50015.html

The Great Awakening / The Enlightenment

Comment by Loren Miller on January 7, 2018 at 1:24pm

Well, the mob can be shown to exist. God? Not so much.

Comment by Thomas Murray on January 7, 2018 at 1:10pm

  I wonder, Loren, if it is the fear of God or fear of mob that keeps religious people in line? It seems it takes a mob to enforce the fear of God.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 7, 2018 at 11:03am

Love that quote, Bertold.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 7, 2018 at 8:33am

Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds.
-- Neal Stephenson

What is amazing is with what tenacity people hang onto that one percent ... but then, that's what happens when you've been taught to fear a god or a hell or your fellow congregants who most affirmatively fear both. It occurs to me that the one thing to fear more than any of the above is groupthink!

Comment by Loren Miller on January 6, 2018 at 5:51pm

Bertold, regarding your excellent submission:

There's no one whose views are not subject to question.
-- Lawrence Krauss

That includes Krauss himself, Sean Carroll, Stephen Hawking ... and anyone who reads this post ... or DOESN'T read it.  It also includes Joel Osteen, Franklin Graham, Jimmy Swaggart, Bill Donohue, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and Donald John Trump.  It sure as hell includes me.

And anyone else who breathes are and has the capacity to think.

Comment by Patricia on January 6, 2018 at 5:48pm

We are now reading that book, & it is an eye-opener from the first chapter, & I am only on chapter 3 now. Lots to try to absorb. Rick has just read the prologue so far.

 

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