Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

The core of permaculture is design.

Started by Joan Denoo Mar 5. 0 Replies

"The core of permaculture is design. Design is the connection between things. It’s the very opposite of what we’re taught in school. Education takes everything and pulls it apart and makes no…Continue

Tags: connection, design, permaculture

"If Right Doesn't Matter, We're Lost." (Adam Schiff)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Feb 1. 3 Replies

This is a bit rushed, but I wanted to post Adam Schiff's closing statement to the impeachment trial on 24 January 2020.  This is potent stuff, and it speaks to Schiff's integrity and determination to…Continue

Tags: statement, impeachment, Adam Schiff

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 18, 2019. 2 Replies

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

The Founding Myth: A Striking Quote

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 4, 2019. 4 Replies

Over the last couple of weeks, I have been reading Andrew L. Seidel’s excellent book, The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is UN-AMERICAN. Barely four chapters in, Seidel has already…Continue

Tags: rights, The Founding Myth, Seidel, Andrew

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Comment by Loren Miller on February 26, 2020 at 5:41am

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It astonishes me how much Christians want to insist that this is THEIR nation when Jefferson had the above to say regarding the laws that established the US.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 25, 2020 at 6:08am

During my sojourn in ironclad atheism, the primary arsenal leveled against Christianity had been its failure on empirical grounds. Surely, enlightened reason offered a more coherent cosmos. Surely, Occam's razor cut the faithful free from blind faith. There is no proof of God; therefore, it is unreasonable to believe in God.
-- Paul Kalanithi

Have to say, Paul, I'm, pretty much with you on this one, though "ironclad" is a bit absolutist.  Your tone, though, suggests that you didn't find atheism either satisfying or otherwise sufficient for a man dying of metastatic lung cancer, and since I don't know your full story, I also don't know what your final conclusions were ... which makes me wonder:

Were you yet one more of those who wanted to believe a pretty lie than an unpleasant truth?

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 24, 2020 at 11:17am

Just like we have no word for people who don't collect stamps.

"As a confirmed non-stamp-collector I have absolutely no problem with people who practice philately in the privacy of their own homes. Or in public, even, as long as they're not sticking their stamps on me."
--me

Comment by Loren Miller on February 24, 2020 at 5:51am

Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make when in the presence of religious dogma.
-- Sam Harris

Mostly I think what Sam is giving expression here is atheism's reaction to theism, because without belief in god, there would be no need for the concept of atheism to exist. Sadly...

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 23, 2020 at 9:32pm

"It IS Christianity in reverse!"

Comment by Patricia on February 23, 2020 at 12:44pm

Well said.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 23, 2020 at 5:15am

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Welcome to the club, Emma.  I think it's safe to say that we're with you.

Comment by Patricia on February 22, 2020 at 2:25pm

Agreed.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 22, 2020 at 8:11am

I am absolutely convinced that the main source of hatred in the world is religion, and I think it should be treated with ridicule and hatred and contempt, and I claim that right.
-- Christopher Hitchens

And I'm right behind you, Christopher ... and gladly so.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 21, 2020 at 5:41am

If a Damascus road experience was good enough for Saul, why isn't it good enough for the rest of us? Why does one person get a direct experience with a god that undoubtedly would demonstrate it's real and the rest of us would have to, you know, do something else or put together Alvin Plantinga's modal logic argument ... that less than one percent of the population will ever understand? Why is that the best argument for the existence of god? If god can show up and turn Saul into Paul and build a church like that, he can fuckin' show up on my show because no god that doesn't give me five minutes of their time is worth any of mine.
-- Matt Dillahunty

This is really the big question: why can't Yahweh be bothered to reveal himself to EVERYONE? Why does he only deal with certain, supposedly "special" people? To me, this lack of egalitarian revelation is one of the biggest indicators that said god has no existence at all and that the "specialness" of his prophets or revelators is nothing more then their desire to set themselves apart and above the rest of us.

 

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