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I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!

Started this discussion. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 23. 11 Replies

Over the years “religious” acquaintances of mine have defended their supernatural beliefs by saying, “I know that I know; that I know that I know.”  For me, this is an  egotistical defense of…Continue

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Spirituality and/or Religion?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 8. 6 Replies

Spirituality and/or Religion?  - I have asked,  “Is it possible to be a spiritual person without being a religious person?,” “Is it conceivable to be a spiritual person and not belong to an organized…Continue

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Theology of Separation

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A Theology of Separation is a wants-based theology. A wants-based theology has human interaction with an ultimate source in an endless petitionary role. I want ---> I petition;  I am in trouble…Continue

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Gnostic Gospels

Started this discussion. Last reply by Michael Penn Feb 28. 2 Replies

In 1945, 52 texts that came to be known as the Gnostic Gospels were discovered at Nag Hammali in Upper Egypt. These cryptic ancient papyrus manuscripts were hidden to avoid destruction by the…Continue

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Joan Denoo replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"Tom, I like your challenge of my comment and I agree with you. I was wrong in my reasoning and you very effectively demonstrated that to be true. The issues of women's right to an abortion and rights of LBGT workers offer excellent examples of…"
Apr 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"Joan, I don't know what you know about Collins, but before I trust him he will have to publicly proclaim: 1) his use of and reliance on the scientific method, and 2) his non-use of the religious method. So far as I know, he has proclaimed…"
Apr 23
Joan Denoo replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"I don't think Collins, or other scientists, use the bible as a science book and do not see contradictions in their beliefs and the Iron Age information it records. It seems to me, the ones with whom I talked or corresponded with…"
Apr 23
Loren Miller replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"The really sad part is when people like Francis Collins number among them."
Apr 22
Andrea Quinn replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"It's always surprising to me when people who I thought were really intelligent believe in an Iron age book that states the world is flat (Job38:13;Rev.7:1), stationary (Psalm 93:1,96:10), and rests on "pillars" (Job9:6,38:4)."
Apr 22
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Tom Sarbeck replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"Al, three responses. 1) to say an invented superbeing ... brought endless cruelty, misery, fighting, and disunity to the human world is to say there was once something like the xian paradise.  2) the first form of life — which we…"
Apr 15
Grinning Cat replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"I'd say most religious believers don't in fact have the same deep-down confidence in their beliefs that they do in gravity, or seat belts, or modern medicine. Without further ado, DarkMatter2525's exploration of what if they did..."
Apr 15
Joan Denoo replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
""Why an invented superbeing from a supernatural world that has brought endless cruelty, misery, fighting, and disunity to the human world?" I ask that question, too, especially since nature offers us so many wonderful processes. I watched…"
Apr 15
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Loren Miller replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"Which is why the differentiation between belief and knowledge becomes all the more important.  It is why I prefer Carl Sagan's position: "I don't want to believe; I want to KNOW," to that of Matt Dillahunty: "I want to…"
Apr 14
Ruth Anthony-Gardner replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"Religious adherents need to conflate subjective knowledge such as, "I know that I have a headache." with objective knowledge. It's their little mind trick."
Apr 14
Loren Miller replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!
"If you've got the truth, you can demonstrate it. Talking doesn't prove it. Show people. -- Robert A. Heinlein For all their "knowing," people like the one you cite here continue to fail miserably when it comes to the primary…"
Apr 14
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I Know that I Know; that I Know that I Know!

Over the years “religious” acquaintances of mine have defended their supernatural beliefs by saying, “I know that I know; that I know that I know.”  For me, this is an  egotistical defense of  stupidity. Their use of “I know” is basically a sandbagging defense mechanism since there is no way to logically and factually defend supernatural nonsense. Isn’t it futile to try to make sense out of nonsense? Supernaturalism is the absurdity of saying, “there is absolutely no way I can scientifically…See More
Apr 14
Ruth Anthony-Gardner replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion Spirituality and/or Religion?
"We had a group, or two, but the last activity was 2013."
Apr 8
Loren Miller replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion Spirituality and/or Religion?
"Very well put, Joan."
Apr 8

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I was raised and childhood indoctrinated into a Catholic supernatural worldview. I have been on a quest to repeal and replace it with a worldview I can attest to and support.

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My God

Posted on December 22, 2018 at 8:15am 2 Comments

My God - The majority of religions talk in terms of My God. My God is ownership of God. My God invariably becomes a collective Our God, truth, and dogma. Our God dogma makes us right and you wrong. Or, us being saved and you being damned. Harris proposed, "the central tenant of every religious tradition is that all others are mere repositories of error or, at least, dangerously incomplete. Intolerance is thus intrinsic to every creed." (2004) Dogma makes our religion having an exclusive…

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Doctrine of Infallibility

Posted on December 15, 2018 at 7:46am 7 Comments

What do you think of the Doctrine of Infallibility? For me, this doctrine correlates with inerrancy. For religions, infallibility includes saying my/our religion can't err because I/we have the Truth. Infallibility is about being right absolutely and without exception. Infallibility proclaims the inerrancy of the Bible. In 1870, the Roman Catholic Church formally announced the doctrine of papal infallibility on matters of faith and doctrine. However, all religions have some doctrinal forms…

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Fideism

Posted on December 1, 2018 at 8:10am 1 Comment

What do you think of the concept of Fideism? For me, fideists are those religious addicts who have beliefs not based on reason or logic. For me, fideism puts reasoning to sleep. It really amounts to an abdication of the working brain’s critical thinking skills of analysis and synthesis. Fideism is concrete reactive thinking and a mechanical interaction with life. Schopenhauer said, “faith and knowledge are related as the scales of a balance; when one goes up, the other goes down.” (19th…

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Dogma

Posted on November 24, 2018 at 7:39am 4 Comments

Here are some views on dogma. What do you think? Dogma is a major factor that leads to a theology of separation. We all have access to a Natural Moral Code predating any man-made religious beliefs. However, we interpret universal moral codes the way we experience life. Universal moral codes are interpreted by a human nature that includes solipsism. Religions are man-made interpretation of nature-made universal moral codes based on their experience of Nature and human…

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