"Well you have to keep in mind that all people are actually born atheists. I was actually an agnostic until around age twelve to thirteen, and at this age my mom seemed to make a huge push to get me involved in religion; likely in hopes to ensure…"
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 23, 2012. 31 Replies 0 Likes
So I'm 18, and still live with my parents. I've also been an Atheist for two years now, and have never looked back at my former Christian faith. So my mom and family still think that I'm a Christian,…Continue
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Alex replied to K Avony's discussion Ready to take the plunge!
"Oh this is the exact feeling that I get sometimes. I contemplate Pascal's Wager, wonder over the Bible passages about salvation and hell, but then always come to the same conclusion that I always do. God is not real. The Bible has too many…"
Loren Miller replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"Thinking about all of this, there is a line I came up with in a post some time back which speaks at least in part to the whole issue of belief and its problematic nature:Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on…"
David Philip Norris replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"Watch out for the emotional appeals too: "How can you reject Jesus like this after what he did for you!? He loves you so much!" Hearing Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens parrot that in their talks and then tear that…"
David Philip Norris replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"Yeah. Consider that you're living at home, under their rules, and there's the threat of retaliation (like you said, taking away your laptop, tablet, etc), it's not worth it. My parents would have for sure dragged me in front of…"
David Philip Norris replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"Yes. My approach to Twitter and social media was formed by being with my fundamentalist family. When you start thinking about every piece of communication that you're sending out and how it's going to be interpreted, you become much more…"
Alex replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"Excellent advice. I have firmly decided that I don't dare tell them until I move away, because I know that my mom will bombard me until I 'succumb.' I will not let that happen."
Alex replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"I have read it, and pointed out the things like that to myself. I've also used resources like the Skeptics Annotated Bible and the "Evil Bible." I don't dare point out that stuff to my mom yet, though. Since she's a pretty…"
Alex replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"That's my plan. I feel quite guilty, but I'm going to stick with it."
Alex replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"Thanks again for this advice! I'm glad that you can relate to my situation.
But yes, I think Proverbs 22:6 really is my mom's parenting philosophy as well(my dad has never approached me about religion, so he's cool). She has often…"
Alex replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"I'll definitely do that. I have just been deleting them, but also I've been dying to send her a sample of the Kiwi Question or some other great Atheist article. I've managed to keep silent so far though, and I don't plan to…"
Alex replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"Thanks for the great advice! I'm definitely going to wait until I move away before I tell them. That will certainly make breaking it to them so much easier.
And I checked out the Evil Bible. Along with the Skeptic's Annotated Bible,…"
David Philip Norris replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"I waited until I was out of my parents' house and financially independent to come out to them as both gay AND atheist (though not at the same time -- I came out gay in 2009, and atheist just last year). Bizarrely, they took my being an atheist…"
David Philip Norris replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"The website www.evilbible.com is a great resource for this! But yes, read the WHOLE bible and be able to quote from it. Christians don't know what to do when you can beat them at their own game! This is a favorite tactic of Hitchens and…"
David Philip Norris replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"That's actually a really good suggestion! Theists claim that nontheists are without a moral compass and can't be good, so to go overboard (so to speak) and speak through your actions in being truly altruistic and generous can only bolster…"
David Philip Norris replied to Alex's discussion A tough decision......
"And lest it go unmentioned, Julia Sweeney's Letting Go of God is an incredible story, which is her one-woman show that tells her journey from Catholicism to atheism. Not that I approve of piracy, but the complete DVD of her show is on YouTube,…"
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- At 5:14am on March 23, 2012,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… - Hello Alex. You have certainly come to the right place to find friends.Welcome to this world of rationality, truth and peace, where common sense helped by science leads to freethinking wisdom as you know well.For the time being keep your intellectually-correct, sound-based, atheism to yourself. The time will come. At least you know you are right, and you know the family are wrong. Actually, it will not hurt to read more of the Bible--the bits they never tell you about, because the priests go cherry-picking only the bits that suit their sermons. The by-bull is filled with violence, slaughter, rape, genocide . . .We invite you to make good friends by joining the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Gods, Atheism, Evolution, Darwin..." with 669 discussion topics and 3350 members.
- At 11:20pm on March 22, 2012,
Tony Carroll said… Welcome, Alex. Glad to have you onboard.
- At 10:51pm on March 22, 2012,
Ruth Anthony-Gardner said… Welcome, Alex! Glad you could join us. :D
Please consider joining a group to meet people and talk about anything that's on your mind, Hang With Friends. You might also like the Forum on Atheism. After you've searched for stuff that interests you in "Groups" above and in the "Forums", don't forget to look at recent activity which hides along the right margin of the page all the way at the bottom.
- At 10:25pm on March 22, 2012,
Steph S. said… Greetings! Welcome to the site!
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