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Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
Started this discussion. Last reply by booklover Apr 28, 2012. 19 Replies 0 Likes
Are people generally rational or irrational and has that changed over the course of history? Rationality is the operation of reason; the weighing of options and assessing benefits over costs in the…Continue
The Problem With Good People Having Faith
Started this discussion. Last reply by Andrew Altomare Apr 17, 2012. 11 Replies 1 Like
The typical religious person, isolated from his or her faith, probably contributes more goodness than suffering to the world. However the good ones all together fabricate the veil under which evil…Continue
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Ficking Chucken replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
Dogly replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"Offense is taken. It is hard to read. It is disrespectful of your reader. It is lazy. You are yelling at me again. Please stop. If you care to communicate in a respectful, polite way, you will type normally."
Andrew Altomare replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"Please elaborate on how to convey ideas with both mental truth"
Andrew Altomare replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"Wow. Thank you this helps a lot. I don't think I've ever heard a metaphor to describe this so perfectly as the building remodeling. Did you invent the idea of physical vs mental truths?"
darryl stanfa replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"DOGLY. I ALWAYS USE CAPITALIZED LETTERS WHEN TYPING. NO OFFENSE MEANT."
Dogly replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"darryl stanfa. Typing all capital letters in a post is the same as yelling at your reader. You have used an elevated voice here."
darryl stanfa replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"WHEN EXPLAINING TO A PARTICULAR PERSON THAT THEY ARE WRONG TRY TO SPEAK IN A CALM RELAXED MANNER WITHOUT ELEVATING YOUR VOICE(OR WHATEVER STATEMENT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT) AND ABOVE ALL TRY NOT TO INSTIGATE OR BE ARGUMENTATIVE WHEN CONVEYING YOUR…"
Drake Everren replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"You bring up a pretty big challenge here. What I've seen as the fundamental issue in changing opinions, and one that's not entirely obvious in most cases, is that physically wrong and mentally wrong are distinctly different…"
Ian Malcolm replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"I do not think that people should be offended when they are shown to be wrong, but there is certainly a visceral response in many cases. I think that many people have a need to be right, and that they react emotionally to defend their beliefs.
I…"
Dogly replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"I'm sorry, Andrew. I do not want to discourage you. I'm a cynic. Of course many people are open to reason. I don't really think all believers are fools either, just fooled! Some times I have a little…"
Andrew Altomare replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"I refuse to accept that! I was a Catholic for most of my life and a few key people changed my mind. No doubt I was willing to listen. But what is the essence of an effective approach like the one that was used on me?
"You can lead a fool…"
Dogly replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"No Andrew, I'm just aware that some of the folks that I have thought were attentively debating these metaphysical topics, were really internally reciting the "Lord's Prayer" to prevent your evil thoughts from besmirching their…"
Andrew Altomare replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"I was talking generally, but of course faith was in the back of my mind when I was constructing the question. Excellent point though. Thought crime is menacing indeed; a fallacy of intention based ethics. So what do you propose is the best course of…"
Dogly replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"If the discussion you are having is about "faith", you have a bigger challenge than your associate taking offense. Underlying the conversation between you two people, is a third, imaginary presence. This invisible absence is…"
Andrew Altomare replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"It is rarely that simple in my experience. Maybe I haven't mastered the "not being a dick" part. But joking aside, I think many people want to be right more than they want to find truth and so refuse to disagree constructively. Is…"
Blake replied to Andrew Altomare's discussion Should You Be Offended When I Tell You That You're Wrong?
"I think it all comes down to having a thorough, polite, and respectful conversation. Explain your position, and be clear, and don't be a dick. I think people tend to lean toward the position that makes the most sense."
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Steph S. said… Greetings! Welcome to the site!
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