Beth L.
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Beth L. Dec 21, 2010. 2 Replies

Hello everyone, I'd like to introduce myself.  My name is Beth, and I've known myself to be an atheist for about 10 years now.  At first I approached it the same way I had approached my (seeming)…Continue

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Beth L. replied to Brent Feeney's discussion Camping: It'll now take place Oct. 21
"On a related note, if everything is "set" salvation-wise, what reason is there to be 'good' now?  Folks going to Heaven have a place reserved due to past goodness, and folks going to Hell might as well live it up since…"
May 25, 2011
Beth L. replied to roland707's discussion Facebook prayers
"Haven't there been studies that prayer is effective, provided the person knows they are being prayed about? So, if the person being prayed over is also on Facebook and sees the request..."
May 16, 2011
Beth L. replied to EccentricSM's discussion Amusing Responses You Got From People When You Came Out About Being An Atheist.
"My Dad:  "Well, as long as you know that you should never be anything you can't spell." (I spell 'atheist') Dad: "I guess that's okay then.""
Jan 20, 2011
Beth L. commented on Yusuf Said's blog post Facebook Theism
"In late December 2002, my sister asked me to attend a church revival with her.  My belief status was neutral at the time.  Things were going fine until the pastor said, "2002 was the year for you; 2003 is the year for me". …"
Jan 9, 2011
Beth L. replied to Roxi Atomic's discussion What are your pet peeves?
"The leg shaving social convention led to one of my most-regretted "logical" decisions of all time.  Around 5th grade, I thought:  Leg-hair is bad; legs are extremities just like arms; people see my arms more than my legs;…"
Jan 6, 2011
Beth L. replied to Roxi Atomic's discussion What are your pet peeves?
"I always say "Ka-low-rah-doe".  Where does that fall on the peeves scale?"
Jan 6, 2011
Beth L. replied to Hugh Kramer's discussion Pat Robertson predicts 2011 will be a bad year for the world
"I heard that the Rapture will take place in June, so, you know...there's that to look forward to."
Jan 5, 2011
Beth L. replied to Zephyrous's discussion What If Atheist Vs. Theist Debates Were More Like Dragon Ball Z Battles?
"I don't think I could tolerate the "dramatic" camera angles and posturing long enough to hear what anyone had to say..."
Jan 1, 2011
Beth L. commented on ryan cameron's blog post God is good.
"Yeah.  Religious people.    I saw this one on Facebook the other day:  "Listen to K-Love (radio staion).  God re-arranges the songs to help with whatever issue you are facing!""
Dec 30, 2010
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Dec 26, 2010
Beth L. replied to Danny's discussion What if there is a god?
"I came late to the discussion, and admit I haven't read all 45 pages of comments.  But my thoughts on your question are best summed up by this quote attributed to Marcus Aurelius: ‘Live a good life. If there are gods and they are…"
Dec 25, 2010
Beth L. replied to Mark's discussion a way to get believers to read the bible - need your thoughts
"I think redirecting folk is too invasive, but I like the idea of a framed page w/the verse and the page they requested.    I admit I know little about such hotspots.  It would be something you owned, right?  If so, if people get…"
Dec 25, 2010
Beth L. commented on Diego's blog post Update on "What if I prayed": A boy died today.
"I am so sorry for your friend's loss.   Dealing with this must have an extra dimension of difficulty for him, since he is a pastor.  I think it's not uncommon for folk in his situation to question god, and be angry (as well they…"
Dec 25, 2010
Beth L. replied to Eddie Miles III's discussion The Failure of the "God is Testing Our Faith" Hypothesis
"I guess I was interpreting omniscience as knowing everything that is, not everything that may be.  I looked up the definition in the Oxford English Dictionary, and it wasn't too enlightening - "Knowing everything" - but I can see…"
Dec 23, 2010
Beth L. replied to Eddie Miles III's discussion The Failure of the "God is Testing Our Faith" Hypothesis
"Couldn't the argument then turn to "free will"?  That is, the argument that God is omniscient in the sense that he knows everything that can be known, but the acts of a human with free will can't be known until tested. …"
Dec 23, 2010
Beth L. replied to Kathleen O's discussion Being forced to go to church Christmas Eve....
"That does seem hard to bear - moreso living with people who are so against who you are then the Christmas Eve sermon.  The sermon seems a symptom of the larger problem - they don't accept you as an adult whose choices must be…"
Dec 21, 2010

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At 3:56pm on April 22, 2011, Josh Nankivel said…
Thanks Beth. I'm leaving for Des Moines, IA now for the American Atheists conference. Should be fun! It'll be nice to not feel like an outside for once!
At 1:05am on January 4, 2011, Richard Healy said…

I've got a bookcase practically devoted to the topic on various subjects connected with atheism and science and a load of online resources. 

hominem unius libri timeo (I fear the man of a single book)


If you want any further reading /viewing I can happily recommend some.


For example if you'd like to see Intelligent Design debunked watch this

At 2:23pm on December 29, 2010, Cookie said…
Hello Beth!  We are getting together on the 12th at a local coffee shop.  I am in the process of getting our  own website up, and I will let you know when that happens.  Please send me a private message if you are interested in attending, we would love to have you.  I will give you all of the details there.  :  )
At 6:14pm on December 26, 2010, Keith Brian Johnson said…

Well, now you know some people who *do* "own up to not believing."  More than that:  I think other people shouldn't believe, either.  (But there are two senses of "should" at work there.  (i) I think that people shouldn't believe in a thing's existence with anything approaching a high degree of confidence without good reason; (ii) I think that people shouldn't believe that there is good reason to think that God really does exist.  Someone who disagrees with me on (ii) should believe, in the sense of (i)--the debate then is over how good the reasons are for and against such belief.)  I am, in fact, writing a collection of philosophical essays to that effect.  So, you most certainly are now acquainted with people who do not believe in God and who are willing to speak up about it!


Welcome to the club.

At 5:12am on December 25, 2010, Richard Healy said…
Oh and Happy Hogswatch, by the way! :-D
At 5:11am on December 25, 2010, Richard Healy said…

Hi Beth,


Glad you've found a home here at A|N.


Yeah I've done a lot of reading on atheism and science all to keep the leetle grey cells working, y'know? ;^)


My local book shop now sells coffee and muffins and no books and has been renamed Starbucks and thus did the common society get just a smidgen worse.  But there is hope.  Behold the power of Amazon home delivery....


I read TGD, some way into my thinking my way into atheism.  What, if I may ask did it do for you?  Are you looking to read more books about it?


For me it was like having a friend agree with me in a contentious argument.  I'd sussed the Ontological argument and the Argument from Design were bunk and I was busy reading up on real science - and think a-ha , at last: ANSWERS!  - then TGD came out and it was like, ah I'm not wrong to be thinking this. Excellent.


So in a sense it crystallised my unbelief from a solution I'd been stirring for a few years prior.

At 5:55pm on December 21, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…

Hi Beth. You introduce yourself well. Welcome to Atheist Nexus with its 20,000 freethinkers who recognise the truth that God and gods are fictions and religions exist to control impressionable people.

Terry Meaden
We invite you to make new friends and join the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Evolution, Darwin..." with its 375 discussion topics and 2200 members.



At 7:13pm on December 20, 2010, Atheist Princess said…

Welcome Fellow Heathen ( :

At 5:45pm on December 20, 2010, Carla said…

Hello & welcome :)



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