"I come to this forum as an atheist interested in Buddhism (I not a practising buddhist), and would be very interested to hear your perspective. From my reading, I find that many of the propositions of buddhism seem to hang together (though [see my…"
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Could you explain in non-buddhist terminology why 'craving' is regarded as fatal?
The reason I ask is that common sense says to me that some cravings (e.g. for water, if I am thirsty, or food if I am…"
"Reminder: Craving is one of the five kleshas that inhibit and in extreme cases deny enlightenment. I always speak of them as the four kleshas, since I think of craving (raga) as the twin klesha of abhorrence or rejection (dvesha). Either is fatal."
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"Hiram, many thanks for your reply; logical is definitely what we ought to be in this discussion.
Before going any further, I want to be clear about the discussion I am interested in having. It's about three things;
Getting clarification about…"
Where I have trouble is with the apparent lack of acknowledgement of 'agency' on the part of the 'craver'.
If I understand you correctly, you are struggling to understand the doctrine of anatta, or no-self, non-being.…"
The idea that suffering is caused by 'craving an illusion' is one of the core propositions of buddhism. I'd like to dissect this with the help of this discussion group.I have always found the selection of the word 'craving' to be interesting and worthy of discussion. To quote a dictionary "A consuming desire; a yearning.". Stephen Batchelor sums this up in his interesting but over-compressed 'Buddhism without beliefs' as 'Craving for life to be other than it is.' To expand 'A consuming desire…See More