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Theological noncognitivism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Edwin McCravy Dec 5, 2015. 104 Replies

Close your eyes and try to think of something labeled "God".  You can't!  You can think of unicorns, and pink polka dot elephants, and even Zeus and Hercules, but those aren't anything a theist would…Continue

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Edwin McCravy replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"Joan Dengo: >>People have all kinds of delusions, i.e. love, hope, superiority, inferiority. illusion, fallacies, expectations, etc.<< You are hitting on something very important here which explains the illusion of theism. It is…"
Dec 5, 2015
Joan Denoo replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"People have all kinds of delusions, i.e. love, hope, superiority, inferiority. illusion, fallacies, expectations, etc. These constructs created in an individual's mind can be transported to another, or shared by a group, and used to make…"
Dec 5, 2015
Edwin McCravy replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"But your use of the words "his god", "imaginary friend", " him (her, it)", "he's", "he's just nasty" shows that you are still hanging onto the irrational belief that theists…"
Dec 5, 2015
Edwin McCravy replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"But you don't need to explain logic to a theist.  You just have to keep asking her to describe what she believes she is imagining when she says "God".  Sooner or later she is bound to realize that she can't imagine…"
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Jerry Wesner replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"Not only have I never heard a theist describe his god -- and I've spent time around many -- but I've never heard any aspect of this imaginary friend that would make him (her, it) appeal to me at all.  As Christianity shifted its…"
Dec 5, 2015
Edwin McCravy replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
">>"from cases where existence is already assumed."<< You don't have to assume that 2+3=5.  It already is 5 whether you assume it or not.  Don't you exist?  Sure you do, whether you assume it or not.…"
Dec 5, 2015
Michael Penn replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"     "from cases where existence is already assumed." You can have it your way if you like but it doesn't work because we have to invent language uses for the things that are "assumed." If you do not do…"
Dec 5, 2015
Edwin McCravy replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
">>People are in awe of something they cannot explain and they just make shit up.<< I want people to realize that "an explanation of existence" does not refer to "something that can't be done".  It…"
Dec 5, 2015
Edwin McCravy replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"I know. You're trying to make fun.  But by doing so, you just show that you also know of no reason to believe that the sound "God" refers to anything imaginable.  It does NOT refer to a god or "an invisible flying…"
Dec 5, 2015
Michael Penn replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"Some may call it a fine line, Edwin, but it's a very good point. People are in awe of something they cannot explain and they just make shit up. Religion is a good example."
Dec 5, 2015
Michael Penn replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"I'm trying to find the creator of my car. I think he's trying to get in touch with me. All I have is a manual but I know he's a General. I think his last name is Motors. I want to worship him forever and ever. Now he sent me a message…"
Dec 5, 2015
Michael Penn replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"Edwin, MY PROOF that they do not really believe in a god but only think they do is pretty sound I think. 1. Nobody is happy that someone died and went to heaven. 2. How can those in heaven be happy when they know some of their loved ones died and…"
Dec 5, 2015
Bertold Brautigan replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"Ya got me there, Gerald."
Dec 5, 2015
Edwin McCravy replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"No, because with that sort of response, you don't sound like you really realize that they don't believe in a god at all, but only think they do.   "
Dec 5, 2015
Gerald Payne replied to Edwin McCravy's discussion Theological noncognitivism
"I didn't think you'd bite again Bert."
Dec 5, 2015

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Theological noncognitivism

Posted on April 1, 2010 at 9:51pm 2 Comments

I don't label myself an atheist, but rather a theological noncognitivist. Theists say "God is infinite" but everything anybody can think of is necessarily finite. Therefore I don't believe the row of 3 alphabet letters "God" or the row of 6 alphabet letters "Yahweh" refers to anything that can be mentally thought of either by theists, atheists, or agnostics. That's why I don't speak or write "God" or "Yahweh" except within quotation marks, and only then to speak of the row of alphabet…

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At 11:59am on January 12, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
Hi, and a friendly welcome to Edwin McCravy.
Very glad to have you here among the sensible, rational set.

Welcome to this great Nexus meeting place and its thousands of bright people like you who recognise religion for the superstition and brainwashing fraud that it is---
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