"yes, that is so bad, even few moments ago, in front of United Nations, Indonesian ministry of religion says that Indonesia is the most tolerance country, based on what??!!
many intolerance cases in Indonesia, such as FPI bullied Yasmin Church…"
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Islamic Defender Front (FPI) caused many troubles for Indonesia
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Islamic Defender Front (FPI) wants Indonesia to be khilafah country, that made lot of troubles in Indonesia, many times they bring terrors for society, on 2 June a transgender named Angela from…Continue
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Dr. Terence Meaden replied to Estee Koen's discussion Islamic Defender Front (FPI) caused many troubles for Indonesia
"This is so tragic.
What a bad world the fundamental religionists are making of it. "
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Islamic Defender Front (FPI) caused many troubles for Indonesia
Islamic Defender Front (FPI) wants Indonesia to be khilafah country, that made lot of troubles in Indonesia, many times they bring terrors for society, on 2 June a transgender named Angela from Makasar, Indonesia has been mauled by them. She has terrible injured on her face, and the police seems like not to give any respons...Indonesia was very tolerance country before, but after FPI came and destroyed everything, I am Indonesian, i love my country, also i am atheist, sure i want to see my…See More
Estee Koen replied to Mark Maraz's discussion Atheist Etiquette in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"yea. its true, i have learn the last honor killing happened in turkey, its said a 16 years old girl named Medine Memi, burried alive just because talking with boys, this is so stupid."
Estee Koen replied to Mark Maraz's discussion Atheist Etiquette in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"in Indonesia has 6 religions which is allowed. its muslim, christian, catholic, hindu, budhism, and confucian. every indonesian has to choose one of those religion, as the basic of country we called that "pancasila" which is mean 5 moral…"
Estee Koen replied to Mark Maraz's discussion Atheist Etiquette in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"oh i see, i dont know that honor killing happens in canada and england.. even though my parents wont kill me, but they will kick me out of their family member, but im ready for that.. also ii have to face the law, if someone make a report to police…"
Estee Koen replied to Mark Maraz's discussion Atheist Etiquette in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"im lucky coz my family isnt like that. even theyre strong in muslim but theyre not like in mid east people about "honor killing" and i think in my country, muslim people dont do such a things, so i think "honor killing" is some…"
Estee Koen replied to Myke Sorrel's discussion Why believe in God? in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"for some people like this, they believe theres some "super power" that take control of everything in this world. but they rejected the religion, maybe they think that every religion are same, or maybe they think that better to live…"
Estee Koen replied to Mark Maraz's discussion Atheist Etiquette in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"im also in this situation.. but worse, my parents are still religious one and claim as muslim. even i dont tell my parents that im already an atheist, also atheism isnt allowed in this country. maybe u can say different to your co-worker, but still…"
Robert Christiansen replied to Estee Koen's discussion An Atheist young girl in a religious country in the group Atheist Alliance International (AAI) (Official)
"just be very careful on who you tell. and it will get better."
Estee Koen replied to Estee Koen's discussion An Atheist young girl in a religious country in the group Atheist Alliance International (AAI) (Official)
"i have plan to move out from indonesia citizenship and become a citizenship from another country, and its not impossible to still living in Indonesia,in that way. Indonesia doenst use sharia law, even most of people of Indonesian are muslim, so…"
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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.
Dan DuPree replied to Estee Koen's discussion An Atheist young girl in a religious country in the group Atheist Alliance International (AAI) (Official)
"Hello Estee and welcome to AN and the US. I've read up a little on the church/state relationship in Indonesia, but I realize that Americans rarely understand that often the state policies on religions and the conflicts between religious groups…"
Estee Koen replied to Park Bierbower's discussion Its Time Again for Favorite Atheist Quotes!
"“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
...Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him…"
Estee Koen replied to Against All Fanatics's discussion Can a theist be moral?
"i like this question also,, some people will link up betwen morals and religion, coz thats the simple way, well lot of scientist in this world are atheist, also theyre well educated, and good in morality.
in another case, lots of people with very…"
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- At 11:45pm on November 20, 2010,
Steve said… - Hi Estee,
I know it's hard to be a non-believer where you live. I once lived in an intolerant place, though I don't think it was as bad as where you are. Be careful about sharing your thoughts with anyone there. Come to sites like this one to talk to people. We will be happy to give you as much support as we can.
Scott
- At 2:04am on November 20, 2010,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… - Delighted-----and welcome to "Origins".
- At 5:30pm on November 19, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
- Hello Estee, and welcome to this friendly nexus---the freethinkers big wide world of rational good sense.
Terry Meaden
We invite you to inspect and join the busy, harmonious, group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Evolution, Darwin..." with its 350 discussion topics and over 2000 members.
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin
- At 12:48am on November 19, 2010,
Anton A. Hill said… - Hi Estee,
Thanks for the invite.
Best,
Anton.
- At 8:21am on November 18, 2010,
Atheist Princess said… - Hey, thanks for joining AN. i hope you have a great time here ( :
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