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The appeal to human nature and the natural order.

Posted on August 17, 2010 at 7:45am 0 Comments

As Susan Neiman notes in her book 'Moral Clarity' (despite the title, Neiman is not a right wing religious nut), "...everyone wants natures blessings for whatever arrangements they considered self-evident. It's an old tradition whose reach even today is almost infinite; as historian Lorraine Datson has shown, moral appeals to nature have run the gamut from South Afraican apartheid to Sierra club environmentalism."

It's a good point and worth exploring because such appeals…


The modern reverence of potential.

Posted on August 15, 2010 at 5:30pm 11 Comments

A few months back, I became interested in Stoic philosophy. I was surprised to discover stoic philosophers considered hope a dangerous indulgence and one of the two ills which prevent human fulfilment; the second being nostalgia.

The reasoning runs roughly like this : To a stoic, the past and future do not exist. There is only the present. So by attaching oneself to the past or by hoping for a better future, we devalue the present and prevent ourselves from living life to the full.… Continue

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At 5:38pm on August 17, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
Hello Gavin, and welcome to this friendly meeting place with its global and Irish freethinkers who recognise that fictional gods and pervasive religions exist to control vulnerable superstitious people including defenceless children.

Terry Meaden
founder of the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Evolution, Darwin..." with its 300 discussion topics.
We invite you to join us and 1770 others.
At 9:28am on August 13, 2010, Gary Connolly said…
Ah Sputnik, this is one place I spend time
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