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Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth (CNN - John Blake)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 16, 2017. 6 Replies

Timothy Freke was flipping through an old academic book when he came across a religious image that some would call obscene. It was a drawing of a third-century amulet depicting a naked man nailed to…Continue

Tags: Richard Carrier, Robert Price, mythicist, Jesus

World of Batsh!t - #7: Gravity (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 10, 2016. 3 Replies

Oh, dear ... CoolHardLogic has found another one!  We now have "B S Detector," a flat-earther holding forth on why he's right and everyone else is wrong.  This particular scientific "genius" seems to…Continue

Tags: Einstein, gravity, Dunning-Kruger, CoolHardLogic

World of Batshit - #6: Sphereless (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15, 2016. 2 Replies

The flying mouse feces spreaders are BACK ... and CoolHardLogic has GOT 'em!  This time he's got some wingnut named Jeranism, who seems to think that there are no spheroidal objects in outer space,…Continue

Tags: Tycho Brahe, parallax, sphere, batshit, Dunning-Kruger

David Silverman – Fighting God & Firebrand Atheism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 7, 2016. 58 Replies

I love David Silverman. Why? Because he has the brass cojones to call a spade a spade, he doesn't soften his approach and he doesn't back down.  Recently, in Zurich, Switzerland, David gave a talk on…Continue

Tags: firebrand atheism, Fighting God, David Silverman

 

Faith is NO Reason ... Truer words were never spoken.

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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here since November of 2009), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"And for those who weren't sufficiently disturbed by the events in Helsinki of this week, here's the cover for the July 30th edition of Time Magazine:Astonishingly on point."
33 minutes ago
Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I never said all beliefs get acted on, or that everyone who holds a belief . . . actively exercises that belief in his or her environment. In any case that has nothing to do with the fact that enough ignorant beliefs sure as hell get acted on to…"
1 hour ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Okay, Bertold, then ask yourself this: do all beliefs get acted on?  I'm not convinced that all beliefs spawn action.  Just because I believe I'd like a beer right now doesn't mean I'm going to go and get one.  I…"
3 hours ago
Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"You said yourself that "belief is the basis upon which those actions are based." What that means is, the beliefs are causing the actions, and that powerful and scary to me. "
3 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Bertold, I have to say it again: it is believers' ACTIONS – espousing beliefs and transmitting them to their kids, pushing said beliefs on others, including the government, putting their money and effort into supporting such organizations…"
4 hours ago
Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I think Randi, whom I greatly admire, is wrong. Belief in god makes the church a fact. Belief in the goodness of Drumph makes fascism a fact. Etc., etc. ad infinitum."
4 hours ago
Patricia commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"They just think everyone ''needs' to believe in gawdjeezzuzz & everything would be hunky dory. They live in their own little world, surrounded by their churchites, with no room for anything else. We're not close, & we…"
4 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Belief in WHAT, specifically, Patricia, and how do they JUSTIFY or establish the credibility of such belief?  How well does their belief align with reality (presuming it does at all), and what would they do if it were proven false?Have they got…"
4 hours ago
Patricia commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Our daughter & son-in-law think belief needs to run the world."
5 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"Bertold, if Raw Story can flesh out those allegations, that would be HUGE for stomping on shit like the national day of prayer, never mind those stupid prayer breakfasts!"
8 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I'll stipulate that, Bertold, but the fact is that Their Beliefs BY THEMSELVES Change NOTHING.  My point was that there are those out there who think that they can change reality purely with their beliefs, that if they believe hard enough,…"
8 hours ago
Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I beg to differ there in a big way, Loren. People act on their beliefs regardless of the truth value of said beliefs. Case in point, people who think Dolt 45's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I don't think you can argue that they…"
8 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it. -- David Stevens How many times have we heard it? Belief doesn't change facts, nor can it alter reality. Actions Change the World Around Us ... and…"
14 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Listening to George Orwell? Are you kidding? When there is Oprah Winfrey, Martha Stewart, or Howard Stern?"
14 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
18 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
18 hours ago
Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Believe me, Joan, reading that piece of trash won't help make sense out of anything. It helped create the mess we're in. Foaming at the mouth anti-liberal conspiracy bilge."
19 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Bertold, I have not read "None Dare Call It Treason" and have no idea what to expect. Hopefully, I will be able to make sense out of the mess in which we now find ourselves."
19 hours ago
Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"No wonder Charlie Pierce is such a genius-- "Now, I have had an unconquerable sweet-tooth for fringe American rightwing theorizing ever since my father had me read None Dare Call It Treason over one rainy weekend before my freshman year in…"
20 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I can't find "probandi" in the dictionary; do you know its meaning? Oh! I looked with Google and found it is a legal term: "the burden of proof of which the defendant must prove affirmative defenses or mitigating circumstances in…"
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At 9:24am on July 17, 2018, Bertold Brautigan said…

I'd look at the book as more of a fun reference than something you'd plow through. Warren is one hell of a writer though.

At 2:04pm on May 8, 2018, OrionWolf said…

Hello Loren! I believe the issue is fixed. Thank you again for the help!

At 1:48pm on May 8, 2018, OrionWolf said…

Thank you for taking the tie to write to me Loren and for letting me know of such error on my blog. I am currently working to fix this issue. It is strange but I am contacting Google to see if the can help with the issue.

Greetings and hope all is well!

At 3:24am on May 7, 2018, Marianne Seals-Vahrenholt said…

Hello everyone!!!

I am still very happy to be here!! :)

Lots of Greetings from abroad!! ♥

At 12:18am on April 24, 2018, Prasenjit Konar said…

Namaste...Thank you so much!

At 12:05pm on April 23, 2018, Jim Gardner said…

Thanks..Glad I found this site..

At 1:46pm on April 8, 2018, Vine said…
Thanks for the welcome, Loren. I agree that there's nothing wrong with fantasy for fun. Unfortunately, the line between fantasy and delusion seems very thin, and people often cross that line without realizing it. One example is the admirer who becomes a stalker. Another is the "casual Christian" (which I once was, having been raised that way) who becomes an evangelical.
At 12:48pm on February 18, 2018, shane clark said…

Thanks for the welcome Loren,Greetings to all from New Zealand, it's currently 7.45 am Monday morning....so if you want to know the future???? just ask me :-).  oh and by the way....jesus is coming....its pissing down with rain here at the moment....see infalible proof, anyone got a towel?

 i look forward to learning more of Dan Barker and Jerry De Witt.

 

all the best people, keep up the good work

best regards shane

At 6:13pm on January 9, 2018, Chris said…

Great quote Loren.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
-- Upton Sinclair

At 5:36am on January 9, 2018, Marianne Seals-Vahrenholt said…

New friend Loren!

Keep coming back here. Learning, that many people share my frame of mind. Thx a bunch for creating this site.

Everyone have a great 2018!!

Warm greeting from Germany

Loren Miller's Blog

Why God Must Remain Hidden

Posted on July 10, 2018 at 9:00am 2 Comments

The biggest problem religion faces in hawking its wares is that its primary product – god – is unavailable for examination, mostly because it doesn’t exist. Yet religions continue to insist with zealous ferocity that their god is out there and that it must be acknowledged, worshipped, and obeyed. As a primary result of this, the game of religion necessarily becomes a shell game, which has its deity hidden behind mysteries and obtuse dogma and holy books which require interpretation for…

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The Disturbing Final Goal of Westworld

Posted on June 11, 2018 at 8:00am 3 Comments

My wife and I have been following HBO’s Westworld since its first episode last year. We’ve “met” Maeve and Teddy and the Man In Black, and of course Bernard and Delores, along with many assorted others, and followed their adventures in a complex milieu which makes the original 1973 film look like kindergarten by comparison. Indeed, a shocking event which terminated the first season would have led one to believe that a major and possibly insuperable monkey wrench had been thrown into…

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So, What If…?

Posted on May 4, 2018 at 9:00am 3 Comments

It’s finally happened.  The smoking gun has been discovered in unique, utterly new evidence, the data has been verified, all the tests confirm it … THERE IS A GOD.  Now what?  For me, beyond a shrug and a bit of bemusement, little or no change.



Oh, but aren’t you excited or thrilled?  You see, we were right all along!  Wassamatta, eating too much crow?  Those sour grapes turning in your stomach?



Nope, don’t like grapes and crow isn’t on my…

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Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay

Posted on April 16, 2018 at 9:15am 21 Comments

Too many of my heroes have feet of clay!

-- Joan Denoo



It was late February, 2018 when I first learned about issues regarding Lawrence Krauss and his inappropriate behavior toward women.  Then in the first week of March, I got an email from American Atheists, indicating that David Silverman was being suspended from the presidency of that organization, pending an investigation.  One week later, I learned that he has been removed from that position.  In both cases, the…

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