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Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth (CNN - John Blake)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 16. 6 Replies

Timothy Freke was flipping through an old academic book when he came across a religious image that some would call obscene. It was a drawing of a third-century amulet depicting a naked man nailed to…Continue

Tags: Richard Carrier, Robert Price, mythicist, Jesus

World of Batsh!t - #7: Gravity (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 10, 2016. 3 Replies

Oh, dear ... CoolHardLogic has found another one!  We now have "B S Detector," a flat-earther holding forth on why he's right and everyone else is wrong.  This particular scientific "genius" seems to…Continue

Tags: Einstein, gravity, Dunning-Kruger, CoolHardLogic

World of Batshit - #6: Sphereless (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15, 2016. 2 Replies

The flying mouse feces spreaders are BACK ... and CoolHardLogic has GOT 'em!  This time he's got some wingnut named Jeranism, who seems to think that there are no spheroidal objects in outer space,…Continue

Tags: Tycho Brahe, parallax, sphere, batshit, Dunning-Kruger

David Silverman – Fighting God & Firebrand Atheism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 7, 2016. 58 Replies

I love David Silverman. Why? Because he has the brass cojones to call a spade a spade, he doesn't soften his approach and he doesn't back down.  Recently, in Zurich, Switzerland, David gave a talk on…Continue

Tags: firebrand atheism, Fighting God, David Silverman

 

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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here since November of 2009), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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"I've watched enough RT to recognize that it is no better than Fox News (and possibly worse) as regards anything resembling objectivity or integrity in reportage ... and I will have nothing to do with it."
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Joan Denoo replied to Loren Miller's discussion Are We Monsters? (HuffPost – Neal Gabler) in the group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"I warned my three two-year olds not to touch a hot pipe and explained why. When  I wasn't looking, each one, over time, touched the pipe. As I treated the burns I also re-warned them that is what "hot pipe" means.  Try that…"
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"I will admit to not being horribly empathetic with Drumpf supporters, but then it's difficult to bring myself to that with people who don't seem to be willing to THINK ... and think past the superficial BS which is Donnie's stock in…"
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Idaho Spud replied to Loren Miller's discussion Are We Monsters? (HuffPost – Neal Gabler) in the group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"What you mean "we" Kemo Sabe? I usually want to use that punchline to an old joke, when I hear someone say "we", as I don't relate to most of the negatives rightly pointed-out about most groups. That being said, I'm a…"
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Plinius replied to Loren Miller's discussion Are We Monsters? (HuffPost – Neal Gabler) in the group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"There's much to love in our countries, Loren, I won't say the systems of government, but in general  the landscapes and the people are beautiful. I feel ok here, and you where you live. But how can we stay out of the 'us and…"
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"Chris, the hell of it is, I do love my country.  I do NOT think it's perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, and maybe that's what sets patriotism apart from jingoism.There's a quote from JFK which came not long after the…"
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"I think patriotism is one of the things that destroy empathy, and we have far too much of it, even on this side of the Atlantic. Patriotism divides people into 'us' and 'them', and then the empathy for 'them' crumbles…"
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Loren Miller replied to Compelledunbeliever's discussion What Jesus sacrifice? (Is compelled smarter than God?)
"How many times have we heard it?  "Jesus had a bad weekend for your sins."  There are people living in Darfur, Bangladesh, and elsewhere who would give their eyeteeth to just have to deal with a "bad weekend.""
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"Tell me if you've heard this one before:Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.-- Anonymous"
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"They're renting to own."
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"To conclude that people who rent politicians are more sociopathic than average does not require costly research. Requests for gov't funding for such research will almost certainly be refused."
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"The rub is in the fact that they don't look at it as a knee-jerk reaction to change and progress. They look at it as having their lives stolen, and the Rethugs have played them like a Stradivarius for decades, whipping them into a frenzy of…"
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"Maybe not whole nations, Bertold, but certainly significant parts of them.  Offhand, I would say, those parts which have a knee-jerk reaction to change and progress, especially when such threatens their position, privilege, or both.  Their…"
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"Bertold, I concur.  I have also tried to use that Doaren quote with others a few times in my life and was mostly laughed at. I refrained from using the Dr. Al Bartlett talk about the greatest short cumming of the human race is the lack of…"
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Are We Monsters? (HuffPost – Neal Gabler)

Warner Brothers and Universal have both been dusting off an inventory of classic monsters — King Kong, Godzilla, The Mummy, The Wolf Man, etc. — which prompted New York Times film critics Manohla Dargis and A.O. Scott to speculate whether this was a reaction to a contemporary America, where monstrousness now seems to run rampant. When you add a film like the mega hit Get Out, about human monsters, you get the feeling that maybe Hollywood is onto something. Monster films have always dealt with…See More
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Loren Miller commented on Daniel W's group Quotation Of The Day
"I think this one has its moments:Believe nothing,No matter where you read it,Or who has said it,Not even if I have said it,Unless it agrees with your own reasonAnd your own common sense.-- Buddha"
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At 9:57pm on April 20, 2017, Marjorie Blegen said…

Sounds like you have a great bunch of fur-babies. Let me tell you about mine:

1. Samwise Gamgee Moonglow-16 yo: lilac point Siamese mix I picked up at a 3-M plant in Ontario, CA while I still drove semi. He is the BEST!

2. Chloe Rose-approx. 18 yo: tortoiseshell. Got her from a college woman who could not keep her.

3. Cappuccino Java Hopper Enigma Little Bitch - almost 9 yo: Mostly white with black splotches. A friend brought her to me when she was about 6 days old. She never grew so is still my baby (Java for short).

4. Majik Curious Destiny - approx. 3 yo: A friend (same one who brought Java to me) found Majik at a PetSmart up for adoption. I received pictures of her and told my friend to get her for me as I had been searching for a calico like her since my last calico died (Maggie was 19 when she died).

5. Solveig5-6 yo: Eastern Gray tree frog. One fall, when I was still putting plants outside during the day, this little frog kept coming in with the plants every night. I would find her in the morning when I placed my plants outside. After the third time, I said, "Well, I guess you want to stay." I bought a large habitat with front glass doors, put in plants and logs, plus a pond. I have to buy crickets (Yuck) to feed her. She is the mellowest frog I've ever come across.

So, that is my family!

At 8:18am on April 20, 2017, Marjorie Blegen said…

Thank you,Loren, I will scritch my cats and tell Solveig (the frog) ribbit. Soveig is an Eastern Gray tree frog - chirp chirp.

At 10:05am on January 21, 2017, Daniel W said…

Another famous someone ALMOST from Cleveland

At 10:51am on September 8, 2016, Elisabeth Christina Mathes said…

Thanks for the welcome, Loren!

I´ve already found many awesome vids and topics in this group, so I will definitely have a great time here! Cheers, Eli

At 6:41am on July 3, 2016, Scarlet StormBreaker said…

Thank you. 

At 3:25pm on July 2, 2016, Kelly said…

Hi Loren! Yes I love podcasts! They were a big help after my divorce the comedy ones helped me laugh again. The variety and content of podcasts is better than anything on cable. I do love the Thinking Atheist podcast, it's well produced and that voice is amazing, I could listen to him for hours!

At 3:35pm on May 22, 2016, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

I was just soliciting advice, Loren.

At 7:44pm on May 18, 2016, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

That might be related. Later I had to stop my flash plugin because it gave me problems.

BTW, I put my psychological reaction to climate news in the Psychology group. It' really for psychological discussion, isn't it. I wasn't sure where to put it, as I already overload Ecological and Climate Concerns. Have you a better suggested location to post such things in future?

At 5:43pm on May 18, 2016, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

Thought you might want to know. I selected the Noam Chomsky group after searching for it in my groups, and my computer froze up. The message telling me what was loading said something about read Twitter.com. Had to do a hard reboot. Couldn't find anything like that in my task manager.

At 3:32pm on April 19, 2016, Neal said…

I think AU's been invaded by AN. =)

Loren Miller's Blog

Grover's Corners and Dancing in Hurricanes

Posted on May 8, 2017 at 8:30am 15 Comments

Back in college, I was invited to participate in a production of Thornton Wilder’s play, Our Town, which was being put on by the drama department of Notre Dame College.  It was a nice diversion from my engineering studies for one thing, as well as causing me to gain two really good friends from the then-all-female enrollment of that school.  I don’t recall ever actually reading for any one particular role, but I wound up with the part of George Gibbs, who starts out as a wide-eyed kid…

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Dear Mr. President: Regarding Climate Change...

Posted on April 23, 2017 at 11:30am 2 Comments

Rigorous science is critical to my administration's efforts to achieve the twin goals of economic growth and environmental protection.  My administration is committed to advancing scientific research that leads to a better understanding of our environment and of environmental risks. As we do so, we should remember that rigorous science depends not on ideology, but on a spirit of honest inquiry and robust debate.

-- President Donald Trump, commenting on the March for Science…

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The Politics of Distraction

Posted on April 14, 2017 at 10:15am 12 Comments

Variations on the following have just been sent to the feedback sites for CBS, NBC, and ABC News:



I may be mistaken regarding your current journalistic focus, but a bunch of ineffectual cruise missiles in Syria, then one large bomb goes BOOM in Afghanistan and any attention the media may be paying to the issue of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and alleged complicity on the part of Donald Trump's campaign seems to have been distracted.  Insofar as I'm…

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The World Is Not Safe

Posted on March 1, 2017 at 7:00am 28 Comments

I was teased as a kid.  Some days were better than others and some others weren’t so great, but the fact is that from the time I entered first grade through high school graduation, there was something in me which drew the jibes, catcalls and slanders from my fellow students.  Somehow I was different, though exactly how I had no idea back then.  This whole business was made worse by the fact that for a great deal of that time, I was hyper-sensitive to that kind of abuse and could not…

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