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What religion has contributed to the world this month - Episode 17 (May 2015)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 2. 5 Replies

Child abuse is revealed in the Duggar family, a pastor is found with child porn on his computer, a Texas college bans its gay athletes from dating or supporting same-sex marriage, yet another…Continue

Tags: discrimination, church, LGBT, sexual assault, Islamic State

What religion has contributed to the world this month - Episode 16 (April 2015)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 4. 21 Replies

Children abused to death, rapist-pastor asserting that he only need answer to god, a government representative wanting to legislate mandatory church attendance, a pizza place that won't serve the…Continue

Tags: discrimination, church, LGBT, sexual assault, Islamic State

What religion has contributed to the world this month - Episode 15 (March 2015)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 2. 6 Replies

After a hiatus, YouTube user "Religion Hurts Humanity" is back with yet another chapter on what religion has brought to our world.  This particular report includes everything from sex abuse of…Continue

Tags: sexual assault, child soldiers, child abuse, kidnapping, Islamic State

World of Batsh!t - #3: Chemtrailer Trash (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Nov 9, 2014. 12 Replies

He's BACK!  After a somewhat sustained hiatus, CoolHardLogic has returned, and this time his Fleidermaus Scheiße takes the form of - Da, Da, DAAAAAAAAH!  Chemtrails!  "What are chemtrails?" you ask. …Continue

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I'm a semi-retired / involuntarily unemployed electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here since November of 2009), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller commented on moJoe's group Atheist News
"Merde ... it's bad enough that there are language filters on some sites because the moderators are afraid of what children might read.  NOW they want a site with a considerably greater degree of automated censorship.Need I mention that I…"
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Loren Miller commented on David Teachout's blog post Faith Leading to Mob-Rule
"David, my big reservation about the Hobby Lobby decision is in its obviation of what up until this time has been a fairly well-worn adage:Your right to wave your beliefs about ends at my nose!Sadly, there seems to be no codified equivalent to that…"
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losing faith (TheraminTrees)

TheraminTrees has recently begun producing a new series of YouTube videos, which added to a wonderful library of earlier observations regarding his experience of religion. Good as all those pieces are, I personally think they pale against this current work, wherein TT relates his own history of early questioning, intimidation and submission, then a return to questioning and intense examination which gave rise to a final, unbreakable resolve that religion simply makes no sense. This is a…See More
Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"Hope everyone had a fun and safe 4th in the States.  Solon, Ohio, next door to us, puts on a pretty decent fireworks show every year, but this one I thought was especially well done.  A couple samples:"
Loren Miller commented on Claire Donnelly's group LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends
"Religion tells you how YOU should behave.  In the US, that does NOT mean that you then get to tell everyone else how to behave.  THAT is Freedom OF and FROM Religion.This is the message that most believers who disparage gay rights have yet…"
Loren Miller replied to ỮŊĐÜムņĮØńệ尺's discussion What reason would keep an aircraft from flying higher than 250 feet?
"In the case of military aircraft, a lot higher than that, Daniel.  The average ceiling of a fighter jet is around 50,000 feet.  the U-2 routinely flew at over 70,000 feet and the SR-71 Blackbird had a rated service ceiling of 85,000 feet.I…"
Loren Miller replied to ỮŊĐÜムņĮØńệ尺's discussion What reason would keep an aircraft from flying higher than 250 feet?
"Unless you hit a microburst when coming in to land.  This has happened at least once some years ago, to a Delta flight on approach to Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport.The result wasn't pretty."
Ruth Anthony-Gardner replied to Loren Miller's discussion Betty Explains Religious Freedom (Betty Bowers) in the group Hang With Friends
"Thanks, Loren."
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Loren Miller commented on moJoe's group Atheist News
"A "sincerely held religious belief" can be ANYTHING, because a belief can be rational or irrational.  This opens a genuine Pandora's Box, because ALL beliefs must get respected under the First Amendment.Which is actually fine, so…"
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion the problem - American Anti-Intellectualism
"The only other option may be Peter Boghossian's approach, as outlined in his book, A Manual for Creating Atheists.  Even then, I will acknowledge that some people may be beyond any kind or rational discussion."
Loren Miller replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"My point exactly.  Revealing the PROCESS was what Snowden should have done, rather than revealing both that AND DATA.  Again, I must emphasize: that data is marked SECRET for a reason, and I still don't see anyone dealing dirt from…"
Loren Miller replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"I have already expressed my opinion of Mr. Snowden and what he did here and here.  That he revealed NSA's improper and illegal practices is one thing, but the means whereby he did so I find problematic at best.  I still do not…"
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion the problem - American Anti-Intellectualism
"One of the great problems with the issue of anti-intellectualism, which also correlates directly to the Asimov quote I posted earlier is the Dunning-Kruger Effect.  This effect is in part characterized by excessive certitude or confidence…"
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion the problem - American Anti-Intellectualism
"Check me on this, but I think Isaac knew whereof he spoke."
Loren Miller commented on Steve Shives's video

Chapter 9 - An Atheist Reads The Defense of the Faith

"Sadly, this is one of the more vacuous chapters of Van Til's work (though that isn't saying much!).  His insistence that he's right because ... well, he's right wear thin quickly, a continuing pattern among…"
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At 11:43am on June 12, 2015, Damien Marie AtHope said…

Thanks for the welcome and comment on my pic.

At 9:39pm on February 18, 2015, Daniel W said…

A winter poem for you Loren:

Winter is the king of showmen,
Turning tree stumps into snowmen
And houses into birthday cakes
And spreading sugar over lakes.
Smooth and clean and frosty white,
The world looks good enough to bite.
That’s the season to be young,
Catching snowflakes on your tongue.
Snow is snowy when it’s snowing,
I’m sorry it’s slushy when it’s going.
~Ogden Nash

At 4:23am on February 13, 2015, Carolyn said…
Thanks, that's Ella. That photo is my laptop wallpaper. Btw, I bought VIP tickets to the PA atheist conference in September. VIP tics entitle one to extra hang-out time with the speakers. This year that includes Seth, Matt Dilahunty,and Aron Ra. I am very excited!
At 10:44am on January 31, 2015, Daniel W said…

I can't believe that either.  We have both been on the site since the Mastodons bellowed their deep, sad, songs, across the American savannahs.

At 3:32pm on December 25, 2014, Christina Fiscus said…

Nice to meet a fellow Browncoat on here!  I aim to misbehave!

At 10:34am on November 19, 2014, Anita K said…

I'm glad you enjoyed your time here! Next time you should try the chili crab with hot buns; it's one of my favourite special-occasion dishes. (: Thank you for the welcome!

At 1:57pm on November 14, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Thanks Loren, for the lead to The Midterm Elections Will Drastically Affect Humanists. I tried to get a link to the author and have a little chat. Then I decided I would do my thinking in public so others can smash my reasoning and tell me where I am all goofed up. But I don't have time to think it through right now. 

Basically, it is that Democrats have a tough time organizing ... the old herding cats syndrome ... and I see it as an organizational problem to be worked out through strategy. He hits the nail on the head. Now what?

At 11:59am on October 22, 2014, Idaho Spud said…

Loren, is there a way to block a specific person from showing-up in my e-mail?

At 10:19pm on October 10, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Oh Loren, you torture me. I love Kahlua and Cointreau and they play terrible tricks on my diabetes. Actually, the liver is what is thrown off track and creates pain like you would not believe. I love alcohol. I love beer. I really love Glenmorangie single malt Scotch. These are loves of the past. I'll do the coffee, whipped cream and a sprinkle of cinnamon. 


At 8:09pm on October 10, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Oh Loren! I like anything coffee. I would like the recipe. Thanks 

Loren Miller's Blog

The Week of Being Happy and Pissed Off

Posted on June 29, 2015 at 9:25am 7 Comments

The week of 21 June, 2015 is likely one of the more momentous of the past several years or more that I am aware of.  It was a week of amazing and impactful news, incredibly GOOD news from where I sit, news which will be far more benefit than detriment in the long haul or so I’d be willing to wager.  Though all of those stories are important and worthy of comment, it is one in particular on which I wish to record a few thoughts.

And that is the confirmation by the United States…


Abraham's Excellent Adventure (The Thinking Atheist)

Posted on June 24, 2015 at 10:00am 0 Comments

Anyone who listens to The Thinking Atheist radio podcasts knows well what kind of storyteller Seth Andrews is - damned good!  That said, Opus 227 of his offerings is especially noteworthy.  In this specific piece, Seth relates a variation on the story of Abraham and Isaac.  This story was originally written by one Edwin A. Suominen, of Ed Suominen's Shitty Little Blog.  Edwin has about as much patience with the bible in general and the…


The Comfort of There Being No God

Posted on June 14, 2015 at 7:12am 22 Comments

There is a school of thought which says that atheism offers no comfort to those who hurt, who mourn the unfairness of life, the proverbial “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” and cling to religion on the chance that the next life will be a marked improvement on this one.  I submit that this is a mistaken concept, that there can be comfort in the absence of a deity and indeed, a demonstrably better existence in the one life we have.  The four points listed below give some expression to…


Nobody Can Show Me God

Posted on May 8, 2015 at 12:37pm 10 Comments

I’m the kind of guy that says if I don’t see it, then it doesn’t work.  And nobody can show me god.

-- Kerry King, guitarist for Slayer

Doubtless there are believers out there who would label the above statement as simplistic, but boil it down and what’s left is the single biggest reason why religion ultimately will have to either collapse or descend into irrelevance.  Regardless of the tradition or culture it may come from, all concepts of god share one…


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