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What Is Faith (Aron Ra)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Frankie Dapper Aug 13, 2019. 14 Replies

In the final analysis, faith remains the last resort of believers who argue that their god exists and that everyone, us included, needs to believe to earn a place in an undemonstrated heaven or be…Continue

Tags: evidence, belief, trust, faith

Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth (CNN - John Blake)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 16, 2017. 6 Replies

Timothy Freke was flipping through an old academic book when he came across a religious image that some would call obscene. It was a drawing of a third-century amulet depicting a naked man nailed to…Continue

Tags: Richard Carrier, Robert Price, mythicist, Jesus

World of Batsh!t - #7: Gravity (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 10, 2016. 3 Replies

Oh, dear ... CoolHardLogic has found another one!  We now have "B S Detector," a flat-earther holding forth on why he's right and everyone else is wrong.  This particular scientific "genius" seems to…Continue

Tags: Einstein, gravity, Dunning-Kruger, CoolHardLogic

World of Batshit - #6: Sphereless (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15, 2016. 2 Replies

The flying mouse feces spreaders are BACK ... and CoolHardLogic has GOT 'em!  This time he's got some wingnut named Jeranism, who seems to think that there are no spheroidal objects in outer space,…Continue

Tags: Tycho Brahe, parallax, sphere, batshit, Dunning-Kruger

 

Faith is NO Reason ... Truer words were never spoken.

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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here since November of 2009), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"[click on image to enlarge] Does this remind you of another quote that has been popular around Atheist Nexus?  Oh, yeah: Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -- Voltaire"
8 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"In re: the "Trump Presidential Library," such a structure would be a waste of building materials ... UNLESS it was built as a warning, both to future citizens and presidential candidates, AGAINST following in the footsteps of the 45th…"
22 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that men who do not believe ... will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine. -- Charles Darwin No…"
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Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"“The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of…"
Friday
Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's group How To Do It!
"Looks like "Paste as Plain Text" is back, along with the other new bells'n'whistles in the text entry box."
Friday
Grinning Cat replied to Loren Miller's discussion How To - Insert a Picture or Other Graphic in the group How To Do It!
"I do miss Tardar Sauce! (And remember that, contrary to her Grumpy Cat persona, she was reportedly quite sweet and social, happily purring in a reporter's arms during an interview with her humans.)"
Friday
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Just think about Irish history, the Middle East, the Crusades, the Inquisition, our own abortion-doctor killings and yes, the World Trade Center to see how seriously religious people take thou shalt not kill. Apparently, to religious folks –…"
Friday
Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Indeed! The character of Abraham in that story failed a great moral test. He should have answered the "voice of God" with "Are you !#$*&ing kidding me? Hell no!!" (A small quibble: "all monotheists" -- we…"
Thursday
Patricia commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Hear, hear."
Thursday
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"... and not scorning the three delightful children who are everything to me who are my only chance at even a glimpse of a second life, let alone an immortal one, and I'll tell you something: if I were told to sacrifice them to prove my devotion…"
Thursday
Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"If any "supernatural" effects turned out to be real, not delusion or trickery, it would simply mean that there's more about the world to learn about and understand. In Eliezer Yudkowsky's fan fiction Harry Potter and the Methods…"
Wednesday
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything. ― Mark Twain Yeah ... funny thing, that."
Wednesday
Ruth Anthony-Gardner commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Good Maher quote, Loren."
Wednesday
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"If you believe in God, if you believe in miracles, then you believe in magic. You believe in magic. ... ' That's what both miracle and magic mean. So miracle is the same things as magic in the same way a boat is a yacht is if it is big…"
Tuesday
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -- Napoleon Bonaparte Which has worked up until now ... though I wonder for how much longer in the age of the internet!"
Feb 10
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are…"
Feb 9
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I LIKE it, GC.  Molte grazie!"
Feb 8
Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Loren, following up on your quote from yesterday, I've seen this one attributed to Michael Bakunin: I shall continue to be an impossible person as long as those who are now possible remain possible."
Feb 8
Loren Miller commented on Little Name Atheist's group Atheist Ailurophiles
"Offhand, I'd say the evidence is incontrovertible.  The question becomes: how long can they keep it up before the HUMAN gets tired of playing!"
Feb 8
Loren Miller commented on Little Name Atheist's group Atheist Ailurophiles
"I'll bet B. F. Skinner never thought of THIS little business!"
Feb 8

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At 2:57pm on November 16, 2019, Patricia said…

Ok, I'll have to find it again.

At 6:13pm on June 30, 2019, Patricia said…

At 6:05pm on June 30, 2019, Patricia said…

Hahahahaha.....these senile moments ya know.........

At 5:09pm on June 30, 2019, Patricia said…

No, I was being a smartass on the quote thing about your hearing crickets in the silence, so I just said I'd lost my hearing as I wasn't hearing any protestations either.

At 4:22pm on June 28, 2019, Tori Gillen said…

Haha, thank you!

At 5:15pm on May 6, 2019, Bobby said…

Thanks Loren,

I managed to retire early a few months ago after 30 plus years designing avionics. It's funny but most of my coworkers were theists. Hard for me to understand why, LOL

At 5:29am on March 23, 2019, Chris said…

Loren,

 Why aren't there more senators such ad Daniel Moyanahan who was more of an engineeer/scientist vs a lawyer  politician type?

Chris

At 6:06pm on January 31, 2019, Ronnie said…
Thank you for greeting loren
At 7:39am on August 18, 2018, Bexs said…

thanks for the welcome....

At 2:04pm on May 8, 2018, OrionWolf said…

Hello Loren! I believe the issue is fixed. Thank you again for the help!

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Alexander Hamilton – On a Man Unprincipled

Posted on February 1, 2020 at 9:20am 5 Comments

When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits — despotic in his ordinary demeanour — known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty — when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity — to join in the cry of danger to liberty — to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion — to flatter and fall…

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The Word Is "Entropy"

Posted on January 22, 2020 at 7:30am 2 Comments

Entropy (n) lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.



A Never-Ending Battle



Canaries, Coal Mines…



Believing is easy. Knowing is hard.



“Coasting” “The bill doesn’t come due until after we’re dead” … so why care?



“Eternal vigilance…”



I was reflecting the other day on a couple of my more recent blog posts and what they had in common. Looking at issues like climate change, social justice, LGBTQ rights and…

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Then What Are You For?!

Posted on December 5, 2019 at 8:15am 8 Comments

...they [the Roman Catholic Church] for example thought that slavery was perfectly fine... absolutely okay, and then they didn't, and what is the point of the Catholic Church if it says, “oh well we couldn't know better because nobody else did”? [To the affirmative team] Then what are you for?!

-- Stephen Fry, answering a question during the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate, “Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?”



Of course, slavery was okay to…

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What A Long, Strange Trip...

Posted on November 16, 2019 at 8:10am 6 Comments

Sometime in early November, 2009, an atheist friend of mine on the now-defunct Experience Project website directed me over to a relatively new site called Atheist Nexus. There, EVERYONE was an atheist, and you didn’t have to worry about believers crashing the party and constantly trying to convert you. Gee, I thought, I should have a look, and I did, and what I found was a lively, vital community of freethinkers who had no problem with stating their points of view in boldface.…



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