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Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth (CNN - John Blake)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 16. 6 Replies

Timothy Freke was flipping through an old academic book when he came across a religious image that some would call obscene. It was a drawing of a third-century amulet depicting a naked man nailed to…Continue

Tags: Richard Carrier, Robert Price, mythicist, Jesus

World of Batsh!t - #7: Gravity (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 10, 2016. 3 Replies

Oh, dear ... CoolHardLogic has found another one!  We now have "B S Detector," a flat-earther holding forth on why he's right and everyone else is wrong.  This particular scientific "genius" seems to…Continue

Tags: Einstein, gravity, Dunning-Kruger, CoolHardLogic

World of Batshit - #6: Sphereless (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15, 2016. 2 Replies

The flying mouse feces spreaders are BACK ... and CoolHardLogic has GOT 'em!  This time he's got some wingnut named Jeranism, who seems to think that there are no spheroidal objects in outer space,…Continue

Tags: Tycho Brahe, parallax, sphere, batshit, Dunning-Kruger

David Silverman – Fighting God & Firebrand Atheism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 7, 2016. 58 Replies

I love David Silverman. Why? Because he has the brass cojones to call a spade a spade, he doesn't soften his approach and he doesn't back down.  Recently, in Zurich, Switzerland, David gave a talk on…Continue

Tags: firebrand atheism, Fighting God, David Silverman


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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here since November of 2009), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller commented on Daniel W's group Quotation Of The Day
"Excellent quote, Daniel.I would do a reflexive take on his first statement by saying: "Religion can never be reformed, because religion is slavery."Wow ... "Religion is slavery."  What a simple yet powerful three-word…"
10 minutes ago
Loren Miller commented on Paul Tripp's blog post The world needs a newer, better religion. A religion based on evolutionary law.
"Actually, NO ... we don't need a new religion.  We need a recognition that science, logic, reason and skepticism are what advance human culture (and throw in empathy, while we're at it!) and, insofar as it is possible, discard the…"
30 minutes ago
Loren Miller commented on Daniel W's group Quotation Of The Day
"I don't get emails either, Idaho, but what I DO get are notifications in my "subscription" page on YouTube, and I check that daily.  BTW, Aron just produced an excellent video about his run for the Texas State Senate.  Very…"
1 hour ago
Loren Miller replied to Compelledunbeliever's discussion Christian doctrine, Jesus sacrifice didn't work?
"John 3:16 – For god so loved the world, etc, etc. –  is supposed to be the "evidence" for this whole business, but the problem is that it may be the only such statement.  None of the synoptic gospels make such a…"
1 hour ago
Loren Miller commented on Daniel W's group Quotation Of The Day
"God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time goes on.-- Neil deGrasse TysonGood old god-of-the-gaps ... and what do the believers do when the gaps are filled in?"
2 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Daniel W's photo

With Loren Miller at the Reason Rally June 2016

"Something happened with the aspect ratio, I think.  I'm not THAT overweight!  [grin!]"
14 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Donald R Barbera's blog post BE SURE OF WHAT YOU SPEAK
"The question continues to be begged: why didn't Yahweh say: Thou shalt NOT own any human being as property! He could have done so as easily as issuing any other of the hundreds of commandments which litter the Pentateuch ... yet he…"
15 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Daniel W's group Quotation Of The Day
"Daniel, I say: throw a rat in that box!  Don't be messin' wif my puddy-cats!"
15 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"There is actually such a thing as plum wine.  My wife and I have it regularly when we go to a Japanese hibachi-style restaurant.  Kinsen is our preferred brand."
22 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Ivy's group Atheist Humor
"And while we're at it, here's one of my favorite Atheist Pig episodes:Click on the image to enlarge."
Loren Miller commented on Daniel W's group Quotation Of The Day
"Do you know what a free country is?  It's one where apostasy and blasphemy is not a crime; it's a RIGHT.-- Aron RaThe above was the last comment Aron made on a rant he posted to YouTube yesterday.  Pretty good rant, IMHO."
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's status
"Comment by Joan Denoo 1 second ago Delete Comment I don't know if there are more or less trolls; I do know that the numbers of people who respond and the quality of their responses have developed a cutting edge. We just…"
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"I believe there were several complaints about him ; )"
Daniel W commented on Loren Miller's status
"Loren, who knows?  Maybe a skeptical seed was planted in his little brain.  A seed that will take root and grow, and he will become the next Christopher Hitchens!  Well. Probably not."
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's status
"BTW, Daniel, your comment about "denying god" was excellent! I hope it shook him up at least a little."
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's status
"Thomas, it used to be that we got a lot more trolls than we do now. They never lasted very long (with one or two exceptions), and in the long haul, I prefer it this way. Still, the chance to put their arrogant errors in their face is almost too…"
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's status
"There's a small part of me (VERY small!) that wishes he could have stayed around until the eclipse. Then, when nothing happened, rub his nose in it AGAIN, while reminding him about Camping. I wonder if my mentioning Harold brought David up…"
Thomas Murray commented on Loren Miller's status
"....but curious...does this happen often on A.N. that some person lie to gain entry and spout garbage against atheism?"
Thomas Murray commented on Loren Miller's status
"..yes the troll detector worked fast to get him kicked out. I was surprised....which was also too bad...I was in the mood to pick on someone and he was the perfect target....my bad."
Daniel W commented on Loren Miller's status
"He had to deny god in order to get onto Atheist Nexus.  That is the one unforgivable sin.  Well, either that or wearing white after Labor Day.  Maybe he was struck down by a bolt of lightening? Thanks for fighting to keep him from…"

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At 3:02pm on July 2, 2017, Robert Franklin said…
Thank you Loren, I will enjoy myself where I can.
At 9:48pm on June 29, 2017, Jennifer Miller said…

Thank you.

At 9:57pm on April 20, 2017, Marjorie Blegen said…

Sounds like you have a great bunch of fur-babies. Let me tell you about mine:

1. Samwise Gamgee Moonglow-16 yo: lilac point Siamese mix I picked up at a 3-M plant in Ontario, CA while I still drove semi. He is the BEST!

2. Chloe Rose-approx. 18 yo: tortoiseshell. Got her from a college woman who could not keep her.

3. Cappuccino Java Hopper Enigma Little Bitch - almost 9 yo: Mostly white with black splotches. A friend brought her to me when she was about 6 days old. She never grew so is still my baby (Java for short).

4. Majik Curious Destiny - approx. 3 yo: A friend (same one who brought Java to me) found Majik at a PetSmart up for adoption. I received pictures of her and told my friend to get her for me as I had been searching for a calico like her since my last calico died (Maggie was 19 when she died).

5. Solveig5-6 yo: Eastern Gray tree frog. One fall, when I was still putting plants outside during the day, this little frog kept coming in with the plants every night. I would find her in the morning when I placed my plants outside. After the third time, I said, "Well, I guess you want to stay." I bought a large habitat with front glass doors, put in plants and logs, plus a pond. I have to buy crickets (Yuck) to feed her. She is the mellowest frog I've ever come across.

So, that is my family!

At 8:18am on April 20, 2017, Marjorie Blegen said…

Thank you,Loren, I will scritch my cats and tell Solveig (the frog) ribbit. Soveig is an Eastern Gray tree frog - chirp chirp.

At 10:05am on January 21, 2017, Daniel W said…

Another famous someone ALMOST from Cleveland

At 10:51am on September 8, 2016, Elisabeth Christina Mathes said…

Thanks for the welcome, Loren!

I´ve already found many awesome vids and topics in this group, so I will definitely have a great time here! Cheers, Eli

At 6:41am on July 3, 2016, Scarlet StormBreaker said…

Thank you. 

At 3:25pm on July 2, 2016, Kelly said…

Hi Loren! Yes I love podcasts! They were a big help after my divorce the comedy ones helped me laugh again. The variety and content of podcasts is better than anything on cable. I do love the Thinking Atheist podcast, it's well produced and that voice is amazing, I could listen to him for hours!

At 3:35pm on May 22, 2016, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

I was just soliciting advice, Loren.

At 7:44pm on May 18, 2016, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

That might be related. Later I had to stop my flash plugin because it gave me problems.

BTW, I put my psychological reaction to climate news in the Psychology group. It' really for psychological discussion, isn't it. I wasn't sure where to put it, as I already overload Ecological and Climate Concerns. Have you a better suggested location to post such things in future?

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A Never-Ending Battle?

Posted on July 12, 2017 at 8:00am 10 Comments

I have no illusions that there’s an endgame.  These problems never go away.  You have to educate every single generation about this and make sure it doesn’t creep back into our society.  There’s no sense in which the job is ever done.

-- Tim Gill

Just for the record, Tim Gill is a software engineer and rights advocate, who has been an integral part of the thrust for LGBTQ equality.  His influence spans from the 2003 Goodridge v Dept. of Public Health case to the…


Holy Books – All Things to All People

Posted on June 1, 2017 at 8:00am 16 Comments

These are puzzlements!

-- King Mongkut of Siam (allegedly)

How is it that Christianity and Islam are both sources to claims of peaceful intent and despicable savagery? Jesus Christ is regarded by some as the “Prince of Peace,” yet the religion bearing his name spawned the Crusades, the Inquisition, the usages and practices of the Malleus Maleficarum, and too many other atrocities to count. Muslims worldwide declare that Islam is “a religion of peace,” yet…


Grover's Corners and Dancing in Hurricanes

Posted on May 8, 2017 at 8:30am 15 Comments

Back in college, I was invited to participate in a production of Thornton Wilder’s play, Our Town, which was being put on by the drama department of Notre Dame College.  It was a nice diversion from my engineering studies for one thing, as well as causing me to gain two really good friends from the then-all-female enrollment of that school.  I don’t recall ever actually reading for any one particular role, but I wound up with the part of George Gibbs, who starts out as a wide-eyed kid…


Dear Mr. President: Regarding Climate Change...

Posted on April 23, 2017 at 11:30am 2 Comments

Rigorous science is critical to my administration's efforts to achieve the twin goals of economic growth and environmental protection.  My administration is committed to advancing scientific research that leads to a better understanding of our environment and of environmental risks. As we do so, we should remember that rigorous science depends not on ideology, but on a spirit of honest inquiry and robust debate.

-- President Donald Trump, commenting on the March for Science…



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