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Creationism: A House of Lies Founded on More Lies

Originally published at Pharyngula by P.Z. Myers

I actually watched the entire appalling 10 minutes of this ghastly creationist video by Dr Ron Carlson, Learn How Evolution is Largely Based on the Silly Assumption of a Dead Lawyer. The whole thing is built around a completely false claim, that fossils are dated only from the geological strata, and that the strata are dated by the fossils found in them. He repeats his lie many times in this short video, and each time wanted to stand up and shout at him. Anyone with even a casual knowledge of dating techniques knows that while index fossils give you a quick and fairly reliable estimate of age, other techniques, such as radiometric dating, are used to verify ages.

That's typical for creationists. Even worse to me is the ahistorical lie in the title. Guess who the "Dead Lawyer" is?

Charles Lyell.

That's right, this clown has simply misrepresented the most eminent geologist of the 19th century, and derogated his life's work to a mere "silly assumption". Lyell initially trained as a lawyer, but began his career as a geologist in his early 20s, and by the time he was 30 he was a full-time geologist at a time when there was little institutional support for the discipline. Since Dr Ron Carlson, before he was 2, wore diapers, by the same reasoning we can now address him as "Diaper Wearer Ron Carlson". As for the claim that Lyell was an atheist who invented uniformitarianism to prop up the theory of evolution is absolute nonsense. Lyell was not an atheist at all, came up with his ideas long before Darwin, and at first equivocated and then offered only tentative support to the idea of the modification of species.

As for Dr Ron Carlson, to whose name the title "Dr" seems surgically grafted, I haven't been able to find out what his degree might be in, or where he got it from. Somehow, I don't think it was in geology.

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How to respond to requests to debate creationists

Posted on February 19, 2009 at 3:27pm 4 Comments

Linked from Pharyngula

This is such a great response to a request from the Discovery Institute to debate a creationist that I had to post it here:

A professor at the University of Vermont, Nicholas Gotelli, got an invitation to debate one of the clowns at the Discovery Institute. Here's what they wrote.


I Am Ghost tour calendar

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John McCain: Economic Nightmare

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Is God Pro Life?

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At 11:27am on September 26, 2008, Kali Pani said…
hi Mike, there are cool pics of the BR San Francisco-show on:
news-section: concert announcement: Comments by StevenF: photobucket incl. nice audience-shots.
At 3:58am on September 14, 2008, Kali Pani said…
hi Mike, thanks a lot for your 'report'. BR seems to be in peak form these days. Just stumbled upon some very cool photos: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Bad+Religion&s=rec ....pics by Charline Messa, Sao Paulo, Gas Festival)
At 4:14am on September 11, 2008, Kali Pani said…
hi Mike, the BR concert was...smilie th_interview.gif...? I hope...smilie punk th_1306.gif supercool!!!
At 3:20am on August 19, 2008, Kali Pani said…
hi Mike, thanks for your reply. Yeah, there are some good bands here in Europe: Sweden, Spain, and Germany do have some cool punk (hc and mc) bands that I know of, but they are hardly played on local radio stations or on TV. I receive only one TV music channel which mostly sucks (only gangsta/misogyny hiphop, chart shows, and youngster emopop like Tokyo Hotel, maybe you and your daughter have already heard of them). 'Bullet' I don't yet know (but thanks to you I'll look for them). Big punkbands in/from Germany are: Die Toten Hosen, Die Ärzte (funlyrics), The Beatsteaks etc. But I like some Swedish bands better like No fun at all, Randy, TINC etc. The Hives are cool two. And please do post a review of the SFconcert. I'm very inquisitive!!! P.S. And like Agent Chaos just mentioned my friends I hang out with suck as well, they all hate punk. So, these BR groups + their members are extremely cooool!!!
At 1:56pm on August 18, 2008, Agent Chaos said…
Oh ok. Awesome. I hope to see them live someday. My friends I hang out with suck. Either they never heard of Bad Religion, or they just don't like them. So hopefully I'll make some new friends that like BR.
At 1:35pm on August 18, 2008, Agent Chaos said…
You're welcome So how was the concert?

At 12:41pm on August 18, 2008, Agent Chaos said…
At 4:11pm on August 9, 2008, Mike Grattan said…
California's a big state! We do have some great bands; too bad most of them are at least a six hour drive away from where I live (Monterey Bay). Usually I have to drive to San Francisco to see a decent concert; at least that's only two hours away.

Seems like there are lots of great bands in Europe; I especially like Bullet For My Valentine (say them at Taste of Chaos earlier this summer) and The Hives. Do you have any favorite European bands?
At 3:33am on August 9, 2008, Kali Pani said…
hi Mike, thanks for your reply! Just looked for X on myspace + listened to their songs. I like them! Enjoy the gig! Californians are privileged: all the cool punk bands + BR. At least Germany seems to be one of BR's frequented countries, so I can't complain. Have a nice day!
At 7:19pm on August 8, 2008, Agent Chaos said…

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