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How-to Books Paved the Way for Science and Secularism -- An Essay by William Eamon at Aeon

Started this discussion. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 11. 3 Replies

This essay could go into science or atheism threads, but it seems of general interest too. Its author says that when the first ‘how-to’ books began to explain the way the world worked, they paved the…Continue

Tags: science, secularism, help-books

July 4th, A Good Time to See Nationalism as Religion.

Started this discussion. Last reply by tom sarbeck Jul 8. 13 Replies

In America's courtrooms, judges use the civil religion excuse to leave those two words (UG) in the Pledge, and those four words (IGWT) in lots of places.Search on "nationalism as religion" and one of…Continue

Tags: religion, patriotism, jingoism, nationalism, faith

FFRF asks NASA to withdraw large religious grant

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 12. 1 Reply

June 9, 2016The Freedom From Religion Foundation wants NASA to revoke a grant in excess of $1 million to a Christian-focused religious institute.…Continue

Tags: censoring., employees, religion, NASA

Let's Hear from Some of the Good Guys among America's Founders

Started this discussion. Last reply by tom sarbeck Jun 7. 5 Replies

In The 1787 Federal ConventionFirst, for context, four of the bad guysELBRIDGE GERRY. The evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy. (May 31)ALEXANDER HAMILTON. The people are turbulent…Continue

Tags: plutocracy., fascism, democracy, aristocracy

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tom sarbeck commented on Jennifer W's blog post For those who had an interest in Bernie Sanders.
"A reality is that money and other inducements will always influence politicians. In states with the direct initiative and referendum, people can reduce the influence of those inducements but doing so requires constant attention and occasional…"
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tom sarbeck replied to James's discussion Paradox of Free Speech
"Bert, read further only if you can handle being disillusioned. I used that fist swinging metaphor a few times and didn't want to surrender it when a law student told me that 1) placing my fist where it threatens your nose is an assault, and 2)…"
tom sarbeck replied to Daniel W's discussion NPR on Tim Kaine
"jay, Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood might have gone bad after the Arab Spring revolution there. But since the Korean War (I was there), the US has everywhere attacked and destroyed left wing organizations. It has everywhere supported right wing…"
tom sarbeck commented on William H. Plaisant's blog post Proselytizing
"William, the first and last time I proselytized was in a 1974 primary election when I knocked on hundreds of doors to ask people to vote for me. I have long described that effort as a learning experience and now think proselytizers can learn more…"
tom sarbeck commented on Donald R Barbera's blog post THE TALK
"THE TALK has probably saved the lives of many young men in America. I didn't need to hear it; my ethnic German parents taught obedience to all authority and our experience of America differs greatly from the experience of minorities. Being a…"
tom sarbeck commented on Jennifer W's blog post For those who had an interest in Bernie Sanders.
"Jennifer, I voted for Bernie and contributed to his campaign. I also knew that if he were to win election he would have few if any allies in Congress: 1) to enact the necessary campaign finance laws, and 2) to set into motion a Constitutional…"
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion When will I ever hear about the power of the Atheist Voting Block?
"Russell, one dollar says I wasn't the only agnostic or atheist who quit the GOP when President Reagan invited the evangelicals to join the GOP. Another dollar says a lot of us vote Green. I would have joined the Greens decades ago if they had…"
tom sarbeck replied to Daniel W's discussion NPR on Tim Kaine
"The Constitution limits the US government, not the GOP. "
tom sarbeck replied to Joan Denoo's discussion Debate, human activity causes our current climate?
"Ok, Gary. I almost replied that selfishness, besides being a defensive behavior, can be aggressively stated. In your above "The amygala is also responsible for promoting selfish behaviors....", the word "selfish" reminded me of…"
Jul 19
tom sarbeck replied to James's discussion Paradox of Free Speech
"James, if you will identify some of the ways that speech is used out of context, and the resulting harms, I for one will know what concerns you."
Jul 18
tom sarbeck replied to Joan Denoo's discussion chris hedges on the fall of america and bernie sanders 2016
"Aw, Joan, your pessimism has pushed aside a sentence completion process I'm sure you know. About ___________________________________, I'm feeling ____________________ (one word) and thinking that…"
Jul 14
tom sarbeck replied to Karl's discussion Death without God
"Bert, knowing you are a bardolater, I won't ask if "mortal coil" is a euphemism for "bedspring". "
Jul 14
tom sarbeck replied to Karl's discussion Death without God
"Death without gods?Yes, and also without anyone's stuffing tubes down my throat.Several weeks ago I gave my doctor my DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) order and it's on my ID card. Because EMT's won't take the time to look for my ID…"
Jul 14
tom sarbeck replied to Daniel W's discussion Will 2016 be a modern remake of 1968?
"Russell, some of Donald Trump's tweets about his critics prove the truth of that. However, expressing their hatred might have a cathartic effect for a few haters. I say that for two reasons. 1) When haters express their hate, and maybe see/hear…"
Jul 14
tom sarbeck replied to Atheists read the bible.'s discussion If we consider Christianity a cult and not a religion, could we make it illegal?
"Saz, many upstarts over here in the former English colonies think the House of Lords an historical anomaly that is unsustainable under any rational analysis today. Ditto for the monarchy. The Commons did well to strip them of most of the power they…"
Jul 13
tom sarbeck commented on Jennifer W's blog post DJ who has a great point about police officers in the USA.
"James, please reconsider what you wrote. What kinds of behavior do the following bolded terms describe? 1) ...there can be misunderstandings between the police and citizens and this can escalate the situation. 2) Acting indignantly for being…"
Jul 13

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Born Dec 1930. Atheist 6yrs; Catholic 20yrs; Agnostic 52yrs; Atheist 6yrs; Materialist.
Cincinnati until 1947, St. Pete FL until 1950, US Navy until 1952, St. Pete until 1954, Gainesville (UofF) until 1961, Tallahassee (FlaStUniv) until 1962, into computers where I became a migratory worker (St. Pete, Daytona Beach, Houston, Austin, Phoenix). Retired to San Francisco then Yountville.

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At 2:10am on May 16, 2015, Gerald Payne said…

That's true. I've looked on the internet but it's all a bit general. I'll take a stroll into town on Monday and check it up in the library.

At 3:54pm on May 15, 2015, Gerald Payne said…

HI Tom I've been thinking about that theory of yours regarding childhood happiness and political leanings. There could be more to it than I initially thought. In a couple of weeks I'll be visiting the library i'll see what I can dig up.

At 4:28pm on May 3, 2015, Gerald Payne said…

That electric Universe will blow a fuse Tom.

At 10:00am on March 2, 2015, Mojo said…
Tom thanks for extending the invite. I've been an athiest since the 70's and have become more so since.

I see religion as the handmaiden of fascism and oligarchs.

I find it absurd and pathetic that so many still embrace the superstition and denial of real humanity that religion demands.

You and I will be long gone before the world will be free of the bonds of theocracy, but every movement has to start somewhere.
At 10:22pm on February 28, 2015, Donald L. Engel said…

Thanks, Tom.  It isn't that well written, but I think I get my point across.

At 1:52pm on February 20, 2015, Donald L. Engel said…

Thanks for the invite, Tom.  Hope to have some good discussions with you.  Since we are close to the same age, there probably won't be too many disagreements though..

At 9:56pm on February 4, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

Thanks for clarifying. The reason I used the collective 'we' instead of the singular 'I' was because I was aiming for something inside the comfort zone of the reader. Hoping to rattle cages enough that maybe I get some folks to reconsider their stance on self-ownership. Sorry about misunderstanding your comment.

At 12:54pm on February 2, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

The place where you left the comment is at this link:

If you could let me know who I plagiarize I'd appreciate it. I didn't mean to.

At 11:55am on January 21, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

You wrote as a comment on my blog titled 'personal responsibility':

"Consider the words you borrowed from someone you didn't acknowledge:

As long as we are living the only power over us is that which we allow."

Tom, The idea is hardly new but from whom did I plagiarize?? I take it seriously, and I looked online to double check and found no quote that I failed to attribute.

At 12:52pm on January 15, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

Hey Tom, you said I borrowed words without acknowledging their source. From where??

I'm asking here instead of bumping an old post. I only just read the comments.



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