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It Is Necessary to Trade; It Is Not Necessary to Live.*

Started on Sunday 0 Replies

The Trade Promotion battle we are now fighting is but one chapter in a long struggle between the few who live to trade and the many who trade to live.Greedy folk will quit being greedy when criminals…Continue

Tags: trade., TPA, religion, economics, enlightenment

White American Terrorists Hold The Record For Killing Americans

Started this discussion. Last reply by tom sarbeck Jul 6. 12 Replies

http://rt.com/usa/270142-white-americans-terror-threat/Why am I not surprised?I first saw America's penchant for violence --…Continue

Tags: violence., America

Do You Cohere? Tightly? Moderately? Loosely?

Started this discussion. Last reply by jay H May 26. 3 Replies

After you have joined an organization, here the fictional XYZ Society, do you tell your friends:1. I have joined XYZ.2. I'm an XYZ member.3. I belong to XYZ.4. Other.From Wikipedia: When discussing…Continue

Tags: state, church, politics, nationalism, religion

U.S. is 33rd best place to be a mother. Behind Portugal, Belarus, Croatia and 30 More.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Idaho Spud May 6. 9 Replies

That according to a Daily KOS story citing the 2015 State of the World's Mothers report prepared by Save the Children. Adding insult to injury, 33rd is two spots lower than last year's ranking. We…Continue

Tags: shame, ranking, exceptionalism, childbirth, children

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tom sarbeck replied to Donald Allen Sauls II's discussion Dealing with the stigma.
"Joan, in 1976 I left the 19th Century (Phoenix) and returned to the 20th Century (San Francisco). I knew no one and checked out the Unitarian church. A very feminist woman I met there told me she was a materialist. I sometimes identify myself the…"
2 hours ago
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"While living in SF (1976-96) I heard that the Japanese who had owned businesses were given days to sell what would become extremely valuable properties. They had to accept any offer. The Japanese men who were allowed to leave the camps to join the…"
yesterday
tom sarbeck commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"...the costs generated by the fossil fuel industries far outweigh their revenues. America's industry/government complex privatizes the profits and socializes the costs. "
yesterday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"Yep, Tom did indeed claim that. And Wikipedia, despite the article's title, confirms that the rights of UK citizens are subject to the whims of parliaments. "
yesterday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"Gerald, when you venture to leave the oblivion you have chosen, . . . . "
yesterday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"A most interesting rationalization, Gerald. "
Monday
tom sarbeck posted a discussion

It Is Necessary to Trade; It Is Not Necessary to Live.*

The Trade Promotion battle we are now fighting is but one chapter in a long struggle between the few who live to trade and the many who trade to live.Greedy folk will quit being greedy when criminals put down their weapons, so we can count on spending less time watching television.* I first saw the line around 1960 when I was in college (the first time). A European history text said that during the Enlightenment they were posted at a toll gate on the Rhine River.Was it a slogan in the struggle…See More
Sunday
tom sarbeck replied to Daniel W's discussion Jimmie Carter: The USA is an oligarchy.
"Ruth, check Wikipedia for "iron law of oligarchy". America has always been one. The 25 or so states with direct initiative and referendum in their constitutions are sometimes democratic, written with a small d. Massachusetts has an…"
Sunday
tom sarbeck replied to Daniel W's discussion Jimmie Carter: The USA is an oligarchy.
"You're right; it's not news to those who know the Federalists, led by 1)  Alexander Hamilton, who wanted the "rich and well born" to govern, and 2) James Madison, who wanted to protect the "opulent minority" from…"
Sunday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"A few words by Elbert Hubbard seem appropriate here. If you would escape moral and physical assassination, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing--court obscurity, for only in oblivion does safety lie. "
Sunday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"FT, in your mind picture a normal curve showing the distribution of political power. The curve's small upper region represents the few with most of the power. Its large lower region represents the many with little or no power. Got it? Were it…"
Sunday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"Gerald, we Yanks have a WRITTEN Bill of Rights and a WRITTEN Constitution.You UKers have to wish that your rights were not at the whim of a parliament; I understand your rationalizing them away."
Sunday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"... your pitchfork prodding anything goes mentality is exactly what [you're] accusing the government of Gerald, I don't understand your metaphor. Please say it in plain prose. "
Sunday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"Scott, I started paying attention to American foreign policy in  1950 when America sent me into the Korean War. I started paying a different kind of attention in 1953 when the CIA overthrew an elected government in Iran. Do you know how many…"
Saturday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"Scott, as I recall Snowden intended to go from Hongkong to Europe and his flight took him through Moscow. While he was there, the US State Department revoked his passport, which stranded him in Russia. After you check Wikipedia's list of…"
Saturday
tom sarbeck replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion How many of you despise Edward Snowden?
"Extraordinary guesses require extraordinary evidence, Bertold. And every adjective, adverb, noun and verb spoken, thought, or written is metaphor. "
Saturday

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Born Dec 1930. Atheist 6yrs; Catholic 20yrs; Agnostic 52yrs; Atheist 6yrs; Materialist.
Cincinnati until 1947, St. Pete FL until 1950, US Navy until 1952, St. Pete until 1954, Gainesville (UofF) until 1961, Tallahassee (FlaStUniv) until 1962, into computers where I became a migratory worker (St. Pete, Daytona Beach, Houston, Austin, Phoenix). Retired to San Francisco then Yountville.

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At 2:10am on May 16, 2015, Gerald Payne said…

That's true. I've looked on the internet but it's all a bit general. I'll take a stroll into town on Monday and check it up in the library.

At 3:54pm on May 15, 2015, Gerald Payne said…

HI Tom I've been thinking about that theory of yours regarding childhood happiness and political leanings. There could be more to it than I initially thought. In a couple of weeks I'll be visiting the library i'll see what I can dig up.

At 4:28pm on May 3, 2015, Gerald Payne said…

That electric Universe will blow a fuse Tom.

At 10:00am on March 2, 2015, Mojo said…
Tom thanks for extending the invite. I've been an athiest since the 70's and have become more so since.

I see religion as the handmaiden of fascism and oligarchs.

I find it absurd and pathetic that so many still embrace the superstition and denial of real humanity that religion demands.

You and I will be long gone before the world will be free of the bonds of theocracy, but every movement has to start somewhere.
At 10:22pm on February 28, 2015, Donald L. Engel said…

Thanks, Tom.  It isn't that well written, but I think I get my point across.

At 1:52pm on February 20, 2015, Donald L. Engel said…

Thanks for the invite, Tom.  Hope to have some good discussions with you.  Since we are close to the same age, there probably won't be too many disagreements though..

At 9:56pm on February 4, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

Thanks for clarifying. The reason I used the collective 'we' instead of the singular 'I' was because I was aiming for something inside the comfort zone of the reader. Hoping to rattle cages enough that maybe I get some folks to reconsider their stance on self-ownership. Sorry about misunderstanding your comment.

At 12:54pm on February 2, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

The place where you left the comment is at this link:
http://www.atheistnexus.org/profiles/blogs/personal-responsibility#comments

If you could let me know who I plagiarize I'd appreciate it. I didn't mean to.

At 11:55am on January 21, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

You wrote as a comment on my blog titled 'personal responsibility':

"Consider the words you borrowed from someone you didn't acknowledge:

As long as we are living the only power over us is that which we allow."

Tom, The idea is hardly new but from whom did I plagiarize?? I take it seriously, and I looked online to double check and found no quote that I failed to attribute.

At 12:52pm on January 15, 2015, Čenek Sekavec said…

Hey Tom, you said I borrowed words without acknowledging their source. From where??

I'm asking here instead of bumping an old post. I only just read the comments.

 
 
 

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