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Can you choose what you believe?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Patricia May 2. 56 Replies

This post was motivated in part by Homer Price's excellent blog post, The Theology and Science of…Continue

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Patricia replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Nicely put."
May 2
Dyslexic's DOG replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"From my ventures into and out of religion, I find that:  Belief is based on Certainty.If you are uncertain of something, you really cannot believe in it.you may accept it, and even claim belief among others of that belief, but really, you…"
May 2
Tom Sarbeck replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Read it as “Don’t shit on ....”"
Apr 25
Homer Edward Price replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"These are also the ways to block free will."
Apr 24
Joan Denoo replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
" "Shoulda," Oughta," "Gotta" are Killer Words, similar to Killer Phrases that stop critical thinking.  If someone tells you that you shoulda, oughta, gotta do something, stop, breathe, think, make a decision that…"
Apr 24
Vine replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"I'm not sure I understand.  Does "Don't should on yourself" mean that I should (!) not tell myself what I should do?  Or does it really mean "Don't 'should have' on yourself ", i.e., don't…"
Apr 24
Tom Sarbeck replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Vine wrote “I should have phrased my question as ‘Can you choose to be a theist?’” Vine, phrasing it as you did and seeing responses here has been a learning experience. I had a similar learning experience. In 1957 I…"
Apr 24
Tom Sarbeck replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Homer, you correctly took my comment about pragmatism seiriously. I intended you to take it seriously and phrased it as I did so you would not take it academically."
Apr 24
Joan Denoo replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Yes, I think theists believe there is a god, superhuman powers, angels, all focused on the health and happiness of the individual. If a person's life is dreadful, he or she has the assurance that unwavering support comes from prayer,…"
Apr 23
Vine replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"I should have phrased my question as "Can you choose to be a theist?" That's a more interesting question than whether you can choose to be an atheist, because there are no "facts" that prove the existence of god. Even…"
Apr 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Can people change what they believe? In a word, YES. ln a Darwinian sense, if they would survive they will adapt. Offer a guy a higher salary than his present employer pays and, with other things being equal or better, he will change one or more of…"
Apr 23
Compelledunbeliever replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Yes one can change ones beliefs by choosing to do so. I would not argue by will or self delusion but rather by studying the facts. When one chooses to make the dertermination of what is real based on facts, one is making a conscious choice to change…"
Apr 22
Joan Denoo replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"Homer, the discerning mind requires practice. We had lots of opportunities to be discerning when listening to sermons and bible study groups. Once questioning starts, there is no bottom to the hole. The bible, centuries old, has lots of…"
Apr 17
Homer Edward Price replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"After I made that post, I remembered reading about a psychological study that gave atheists and theists a specially designed multiple-choice test of reasoning.  The result was that the atheists refused to choose answers that at first glance…"
Apr 16
Homer Edward Price replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"I now realize that I should not have taken your comment about pragmatism seriously."
Apr 16
Vine replied to Vine's discussion Can you choose what you believe?
"I've seen your haiku before and am very fond of it."
Apr 16

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At 9:00am on April 8, 2018, Loren Miller said…

I don't mind fantasies as it comes to entertainment, say in a book or TV show or movie, but as it comes to the real world, I prefer to deal with what IS, and not what is not.

That said, greets and welcome to Atheist Nexus!

At 7:04pm on April 7, 2018, Joan Denoo said…

Hello Vine, I agree, fantasies left me with ashes in my mouth and inadequate resourced to fill my belly and warm my flesh. Discarding false stories, looking at life with clear vision, I can at least sort out my friends from my enemies. 
I welcome you to Atheist Nexus and hope you find friends worthy of your trust here. 

 
 
 

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