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Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (My Exit Interview)

Posted on January 29, 2009 at 3:00pm 28 Comments

Well it's time to move on to more interesting and rewarding activities, but my time here has been well spent. I've learned many things, among them, that many atheists are just as ignorant and uninterested in the reality and history of their world-view as are their theist counterparts, they just happened to fall off on the correct side of the fence. I've also learned that I more enjoy talking to people who disagree with me and will put up a fight, than to those who agree with me most of the… Continue

Ridicule or Reason?

Posted on January 26, 2009 at 9:58pm 3 Comments

There are two main approaches that Atheists take when trying to open a religious mind, and release the seed of reason trapped inside. One group, such as Dawkins, Harris, Dennet, use mainly their own reason as a pry bar to try and accomplish this, while another group, people such as Hitchens, Bill Mahr, or any number of other comics like Doug Stanhope, prefer to use the hammer of ridicule to bust the piggy bank wide open. Which method is best?

Most Atheists, I think can appreciate… Continue

Pro Life Atheists?

Posted on January 23, 2009 at 6:01pm 10 Comments

I just came from this group as I was intrigued how one could be Anti Choice without also believing that a soul is created at the moment of conception. I mean isn't that the only real basis for being Anti Choice? If not then I guess the argument is that Society should intervene in an adult Woman's reproductive rights and force her to carry a child to term because...... I just don't know? Doesn't it have to be that something magical happens at conception and that the rights of a zygote now trumps… Continue

Is it just me (or are applications ridiculous)?

Posted on January 21, 2009 at 12:54pm 4 Comments

Is it just me or do most of the applications on A|N seem better suited to theists, or 12 year olds, rather than for people with the courage, integrity and intelligence to value truth over fantasy, in a wold filled with the opposite? Actually I don't need to ask, since the installation rates, which are mostly zero, bear this out. Not a big deal, but it is almost embarrassing just scrolling through the list.

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At 8:21pm on January 27, 2009, Deepak said…
I don't care what they treat me like.
At 10:50pm on January 24, 2009, Jose A Villalta said…
Hello Kozz.

To answer your question. Most do cling to their beliefs when faced with tough situations, whatever it takes to get them through. To me it was fascinating to see how different people cope with the same situation. There were guys who seemed weak in training and turned out to be cool and collected when it hit the fan, and the other way around. Anyway, as for the religion, I grew up in a Christian family, but since I was a teenager, I could tell the whole religion scheme was a scam. But I could not make myself admit that I was an atheist. When I was in Iraq, one time we survived an ugly ambush (I have to admit, we were pretty lucky) and people were of course thanking God for our survival, that got to me. Because if we were to credit him for that, we'd have to make him responsible for all the suffering we saw. Also, I couldn't help to question, what was so special about our patrol? Why did he not protect other? So that's how.

I was also in the Marines btw. Semper Fi.

At 7:44pm on January 22, 2009, Deepak said…
There are as many different routes to atheism as there are atheists. Despite this, many atheists' stories still sound familiar because there are so many similarities in human experience - we are all more alike than we are different, so can readily recognize something of ourselves in the experiences of others.

Towards the end of my high school education, I began to doubt if all the prayers and rituals that are common in a hindu religious family really do mean anything at all. I was particularly interested in one such ritual, which the male offspring of a deceased performs every year after the death. It was supposed to bring back the soul of the dead for that day and their favourite dishes are prepared and offered. Of course it is we who eat those dishes, but my mother often scoffs at my question and answers that if we eat, it is equivalent that the soul of the deceased has eaten it. There was one another important ritual in which I was made to play an important role. It is customary in Brahmins to perform a ritual (in fact blown up to the popularity of a marriage), where the guy is made to wear a sacred thread across the chest and is taught a magical mantra (prayer).

It was amusing to be the centre of attraction on that day, as though it was my marriage. Of course they did try to marry me to my religion on that day, but that is another story. After that ritual, I am supposed to become a true Brahmin and am supposed to do a special prayer every morning and evening. I had to say some verses in an ancient language called Sanskrit and I did not understand any of them. A few of them I understood as being verses in praise of God and a few others as being general requests to god like keep us happy and trouble free. I wondered if there is any use to this prayer if I did not understand the meaning and if I just chanted it by heart. My previous prayers in temples were like simple conversations to God. I found it difficult to memorise all the prayers and it took a lot of time. I continued doing it just for the sake of my mother. When my study load increased, I had a good reason to stop doing it and was very happy.

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At 4:07pm on January 22, 2009, JustJoshNYou said…
Hey Kozz. Yeah not the best place to tell your friends you're atheist. That news shot around the school like wildfire.

Anyway. Thanks for the welcome.
At 10:53pm on January 20, 2009, Jude Johnson said…
Thanks for the friend add Kozz!
I know what you mean - this is a great community.
I have to come here often just for my sanity -- to remind me I'm not completely surrounded by deluded people.
At 12:02am on January 20, 2009, Jude Johnson said…
Here's one who shares your views!
I see religion as our biggest obstacle for both peace and advancement. Who knows where we'de have been by now if religion hadn't stunted our growth in so many ways?

Welcome to AN Kozz! We're glad to have you.
At 8:31pm on January 19, 2009, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
I share your views precisely. Refer to my profile for that. But most of the godbots will not listen. We need to teach first the waverers and the young who are already willing to seek the real truths.
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