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Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
Started this discussion. Last reply by Greg Mar 12, 2013. 11 Replies 0 Likes
Thought all on here would find this extremely interesting:…Continue
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stellifery replied to Greg's discussion Research shows religion behind both organized and unorganized crime
stellifery replied to Ruth Anthony-Gardner's discussion Teaching men not to rape in the group Feminist Atheists
"That is truly disgusting. She is completely right of course.
The part of the article about how most rapists are average guys, not someone in a ski mask in an alley, really resonated with me. I am in what is widely regarded as a very…"
Greg replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"Outstanding! Patton might have been an SOB but both he and Sherman knew how wars are won. Amazing how many people seem to think war and law enforcement should be fair fights.
Actually I would like a recommendation regarding Heinlein. My first…"
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Loren Miller replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"Well ... this guy was no atheist, but I'm in complete agreement with his sentiments:Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.-- Gen.…"
stellifery replied to Charles Cassels's discussion Atheism statistics and polls
"As always, the ever-correct Wikipedia: Wikipedia There's some handy graphs and tables on there.
There's also this page: International Perspectives on Theism According to that, East Germany is the least religious…"
stellifery replied to Greg's discussion Research shows religion behind both organized and unorganized crime
"What a weird coincidence! I think you're right and that sounds like the perfect compromise. After all, children aren't necessarily capable of reasoning the same way as an adult is. I found it a handy comparison…"
Greg replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"I like that. I should read more Heinlein. Actually, maybe I should read "some" Heinlein ;-)
My brother has a couple of piles of them so maybe I could borrow a few.
Unfortunately, in the end a dead man is a controlled man.…"
stellifery replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"That's a fantastic quote, and true as well."
stellifery replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"Exactly. Although only 7, that child showed an understanding of the concept of "forever" and "eternity" that most religious people do not have. Sadly, the god described who burns humans in hell for the whole of…"
stellifery replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"Good point, Matthew - the article has a brief section on Phelps' childhood, and it does seem tragic. Nonetheless, there are many people who also lost their mothers at a young age and did not turn into crazy, hateful cult leaders.…"
Greg replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"And the odd part is that religion is the one safe harbor for this type. They don't have to be rational, all they have to do is be devoted. They can commit their entire life to something that makes no sense to the rest of us because "So it…"
Loren Miller replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"... no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything — you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.-- Robert A. Heinlein"
Greg replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"I think it speaks better of us, the people horrified at the idea of an eternal punishment, than of a god who might be powerful yet merciless.For some reason that quote just grabs you by the brain and shakes sense into a person as to just what…"
Loren Miller replied to stellifery's discussion Nate Phelps (son of Fred Phelps) on escaping Westboro Baptist Church
"As regards Fred Phelps, I'm reminded of a title for a segment of the old TV series: The Man From UNCLE, to wit:"Freud Would Have a Picnic."And indeed, any kind of psychotherapist or analyst with cojones big enough to tackle such a…"
stellifery replied to Greg's discussion Research shows religion behind both organized and unorganized crime
"I completely agree Greg - you said what I was thinking much more eloquently than I did!
The points made in your post regarding confession reminded me of a naughty child being forced to apologize by a parent for something they've done - a…"
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- At 2:52pm on February 18, 2013,
Brent Feeney said… Thanks bunches! =) I'm certainly doing all I can; hope your week goes well.
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Lillie said… Welcome, Stellifery. Congratulations on your new life.
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Welcome aboard! =) Hope you're doing great today...
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Ruth Anthony-Gardner said… Welcome, stellifery! Glad you could join us. :D It's great that you've already found lots of groups you like. I'm impressed.
Please consider joining a group to meet people and talk about anything that's on your mind, Hang With Friends. You might also like Young Atheist Women, Women Atheists, and possibly Feminist Atheists.
I also recommend Eco-Logical and Climate Concerns, since the climate is changing so drastically.
After you've searched for topics of interest in "Groups" above and in the "Forums", don't forget to look at recent activity which hides along the right margin of the page all the way at the bottom.
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- At 6:53pm on February 14, 2013, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
Hello Stellifery
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