"Partly in response, partly also to get more discussions on this group going...
I'm not a graduate but just starting out. I came in with the idea of a major in Cultural Anthropology, but it's looking like Archaeology is just as much a…"
""but because he understands how to control people." That's always been my take on Hilter. He was said to be a closet atheist but always mentions religion in speeches and in Mein Kampft. I tend to believe he did so as a means of…"
"Hilter's atheism has always been controversial. Fact is, we can't ask him so we don't know. His writings and public speeches have many Roman Catholic references in them and my go to prove his theism, but according to "inside…"
"Wow. Thank you! I've been away for a week, so I'm just catching up on all the responses, but this has been, by far, the argument I'd most likely use... if, of course, I find myself in the position to have to or want to argue it again,…"
"Stalin was quoted as saying “death solves all problems, no man, no problem”
Anette was correct in pointing out what these three men have in common is that they created a Cult of Personality to support a specific ideology.
"I always instead of pointing the finger at mass populations that act on impulse discuss the head of the religious exstreamests. For example I ran into the Hitler discussion with a theist but is also a friend who was just talking with out thinking.…"
"While I don't think Hitler and Mussolini were atheists, here is how I explain this point.
These tyrannical regimes were not theocracies, but they were 'cults of personality', wherein the leaders were basically treated as Gods, and to…"
"Very good advice to follow,Anette. I do not think I can improve upon that, so I will use their own ignorance against them.
Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore all vegetarians are evil and should not be trusted. See how silly that sounds? That is…"
"What has been said, and that religion affiliation or lack thereof has got nothing to do with ideological politics, things that both Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini worked very hard to carry through. It's also an attempt at guilt by association,…"
"The Nine-Eleven (that's how to spell the name of the event) hijackers weren't atheists.
Sounds like a perfect counterargument to me.
If they're the unthinking morons that I presume that they must be from that very fact that they not…"
"Here's my argument in this case.
The problem is not what one believes. The problem is wether one believes they are absolutely right in their chosen view and cannot change their mind or realize they are wrong despite what they are actually…"
I was recently confronted by theists on the issue of an apparent lack of morality when it comes to atheists. They cited Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler.I know that Hilter is a controversial one, b/c you can't really prove it one way or the other. But the other two, I couldn't comment on.My initial response was to number these 3 individuals against the many Islamic/Christian jihadists/crusaders, etc. And then to consider the difference between the number of people (the loving and merciful) God…See More