You can't prove a negative. Science will never disprove any god. It's impossible. The same way you can't prove bigfoot, tooth fairies and leprechauns don't exist. You simply look at the evidence at hand and determine which hypothesis fits the best. A supernatural creator has no evidence to support it. This hypothesis alone creates an even greater problem because you then must explain the complexity and origin of the deity. The evidence of our universe, our galaxy, our planet and our species suggests there's not even a need for a supernatural creator. We have far more plausible hypotheses that have significant amounts of evidence to support them. Most atheists are not atheists for emotional reasons. They're atheists because they embrace, logic, and reason. Until there is significant evidence to support the god hypothesis, we shall remain in a neutral state and speak out when it's utilized in passing laws that suppress our fellow humans.

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Comment by Future on April 15, 2014 at 8:14pm
You cannot prove that god doesn't exist, just like you cannot prove that god isn't the devil in disguise. You can, however, stand in the middle of a crowd and scream "god is a worthless motherfucker!", just to prove how powerless the unprovable god is.
Comment by Luara on April 14, 2014 at 4:34pm

Tell that to the students and faculty of Brandeis University.

This Jewish-funded university disses and ignores Ayaan Hirsi Ali at their peril.

Denial has crocodiles in it.

Comment by B Fletcher on April 14, 2014 at 3:03pm

Theist: "What?  I don't have a right to not be offended?!?"

Tell that to the students and faculty of Brandeis University.

(Apologies to Bryan for the thread-jacking, it was just meant to be an offhand remark.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2014 at 1:38pm

I ditto everything Loren said. Especially, grow a thicker skin. When I tell someone that god does not answer prayers, jes-us does not save, the earth is not coming to an end because of bible prophecy, there is no heaven and no hell, I may hurt your feelings. So what? Do you expect me to lie to keep you from having hurt feelings. I would rather you had a seed planted of doubt and to question authority.

Furthermore, when I tell you the Earth is undergoing some fundamental changes and that they will impact the ways living things flourish or become extinct, question that, too! You need to question my statement and find out for yourself if I am telling the truth or I am delusional. 

Yes, I said the Earth's living things may become extinct and it is not because of god, it is because of Homo sapiens. 

Comment by Loren Miller on April 14, 2014 at 12:59pm

Fletch, if there's one thing that Everybody Draw Mohammed Day taught me, it's this:

No One has the right not to be offended.

And I don't care who they are.  If they can't be bothered to grow a thicker skin when someone's having a laugh at their deity's expense, I can't help them (and won't help them, either).  That goes for the christers and the muslims both.  There's plenty they do which offends me, and I seem to have survived all of that.  I WILL take action if their actions transgress onto my property or the government I live under, but that's another matter.

They've had a free ride long enough.  It's time to pay the fare.

Comment by B Fletcher on April 14, 2014 at 12:47pm

Russell's Teapot frowns at Bryan's lack of faith...

The full theist argument is, "you can't prove a negative, therefore GOD!" (And here's his book, and his facecloth from Turin, and his favourite 'T' shape you should put on government buildings, and and and...)

Also, please note that theists have the absolute right to not be offended, which means you are not welcome to point out the glaring lack of logic in that sorry excuse for an argument.

Comment by Steph S. on April 14, 2014 at 11:03am

Good discussion

Comment by Michael Penn on April 14, 2014 at 8:07am

It appears that you can prove a negative, but it's impossible to prove nothing. This is why god has not been proven in all this time.

Comment by Luara on April 14, 2014 at 4:06am

One proves negatives all the time in math.  If you're trying to show something, you can prove it's not true by finding a counterexample. 

The Michelson-Morley is proof by counterexample in physics.  The results were not consistent with the aether theory. 

Comment by Loren Miller on April 13, 2014 at 7:51pm

There are a few exceptions to the "prove a negative" rule.  As an engineer and a Case grad, the most notable one for me is the Michelson-Morley experiment, which demonstrated that there is no aether, no medium through which light propagates.  Thing is in that case, they had something tangible to work with: LIGHT.

As to disproving god, the experimenter is stuck with a LOT less ... like NOTHING.


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