Is it the right time for democracy in Mideast ?

Democracy need fair play other wise it will be used by religion.
I don't think it is the right time for democracy in Mideast and that's because if there is democracy that means there will be Islamic parties, and the Islamic parties play in unfair way.
First the Islamic party use religion to frighten people about voting to other parties they tell people that if you vote for these parties you will go to hell because these parties include people who do not believe in god.
Secular parties are not organized or well funded like Islamic parties. Islamic parties have organized cells and they work actively in helping people and give them money in time of elections and promise them this help will continue after winning, but when election ends and after they win, they told them that Allah not satisfied we have to dominate the earth first in order to live better life.
Example of Islamic parties:
Muslim brotherhood in Egypt
Hamas Gaza
Justice and Development Party (Turkey)
ISIS in Syria and Iraq
Now Muslim brotherhood is most dangerous organization in human history, the are the inventor of sucide bomber and godfather of Al Gaida, Hamas and ISIS. They are very organized and well financially supported. The main idea of Muslim brotherhood is the "Islam is the only solution for human" and they want to dominate the earth and rule by Sharia all the world.
Hamas has same idea but with short term goal of destroy Israel.
Hamas lead their people to a war that destroy Gaza and thousands killed and injured.
Justice and Development Party, after Turkey giving up in Europe, they think of leading Mideast by Islam and return the Ottoman Empire in new form, and the best tool is using Islam and support Islamic parties in these countries.
One years of ruling of Muslim Brotherhood who come in rule by democracy in Egypt lead to destruction of Gaza which need 30 years to return Gaza to previous state before war.
After 9 11 people in Mideast became aware of the danger of radical Islam and extremists, that is why Hamas did not found the expected response from world like that in 2000, people awareness became high of these parties and their manipulation.
Most Palestinians support nonviolent methods of achieving their goals. And Palestinians in East Bank have different goals than Hamas's goals , and lead by Fataḥ . Fatah "formerly the Palestinian National Liberation Movement , is a leading Palestinian political party and the largest faction of the confederated multi-party Palestine Liberation Organization ".

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 13, 2014 at 9:06pm

Jacques, your "long short" is exactly correct in a nutshell.  From what I hear from atheist ex-Muslims from the Mid-East in interviews, it sounds like a large number of ordinary citizens want a secular democracy but that it is not achievable as long as the highly-influential theocrats are in charge of the political system.   

Comment by jacques lauperr on August 13, 2014 at 8:35pm

Long short: Mid-East needs to secularize before it can democratize vis a vis Turkey. That does not mean the U.S and the rest of the world should not get involved when ISIS and other religious fanatics spread murder and mayhem.

Comment by Pat on August 13, 2014 at 7:08pm

What you said, Freethinker31!!!!!

Comment by Freethinker31 on August 13, 2014 at 10:38am

@Luara.....The whole point is  that no one has  the right  to tell another culture how to live....It seems  Democracy does not fit well into their culture.....Let them  decide  what works  best for themselves......If we learned  anything from George W Bush it is that the United  States  sucks  at Nation building........If we had  stayed  on track in Afghanistan  and  killed  Osama Bin Laden  way back in 2003 and then  called it a day and not  switched course  by invading Iraq...The world  would not be in this terrible mess......Thanks  a lot    Bubba.........  

Comment by Luara on August 13, 2014 at 4:33am

If not democracy, what do you think is best?

Comment by Rick Springfield on August 13, 2014 at 1:04am
After the great secusses Afghanistan, Gerorge W Bush found it possible to do the same in Iraq and I think if he found the support from the world things will be differnat now, but he make partial secusses in Kurdistan.
And now I think presidant. Obama have to complete the mission.
Comment by Rick Springfield on August 13, 2014 at 12:17am
I think the only obstacle in the way to democracy is the Islam, and it's like Ebola virus, what make me feel strange is that west stand against the new government in Egypt , and human right organization object the trails of Muslim brotherhood members, and this is like object the containing the Ebola virus, if they know what favor this government do it to world.
Comment by Freethinker31 on August 12, 2014 at 8:33pm

@Pat....Hopefully not many, so their  influence on the West  is minimal..

Comment by Pat on August 12, 2014 at 6:47pm

Democracy works well when there is a tradition of literacy, education, a modicum of secularism, and a sense of history. In the middle east, Israel and Kurdistan have that. In a sense, so do many in the population of Iran, who are being suppressed by the religious zealots disguised as ayatollahs. Hamas, Taliban, Hezbollah, ISIS, etc., do not have that tradition.  And therefore, have no qualms about tearing down civilized society for their delusional beliefs. Problem is, there are those in Western civilization that share the 'values' of Hamas, Taliban, and Hezbollah.

Comment by Freethinker31 on August 12, 2014 at 5:00pm

The biggest  mistake of the George W Bush administration was thinking we could bring Democracy into the Middle East....Just because democracy  works well for the western powers, doesn't mean it will work for all cultures, as we painfully  found out.....I think we have learned that even though the US  has the most powerful  military, it is meant  for severe  short term strikes and  not of long term nation building......We can help the people  in the Middle East  but only  they can determine  their  destiny...


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