A perennial claim made by the moderately religious and religious apologists alike is that religion and science are somehow compatible, and that religion need not be an impediment to the advancement of human knowledge and the welfare of mankind. However, try as we might to reach this accommodation, we find that faith and reason are ― now more than ever ― anything but best friends. ... http://bit.ly/2nziDw5

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Comment by Michael Penn on May 10, 2017 at 7:26am

The question is are religion and science compatible. Compatible with what? If the answer is "compatible with each other" the answer is more than obvious. It's like making snowballs in July. If anyone wants to claim a compatibility here their answers would all come from ignorance.

Comment by tom sarbeck on May 7, 2017 at 1:32am
The personal is often political so, insofar as they affect me, science and religion are not compatible.

In my life science exists; religion does not. I won't allow others to impose their religion on me.
Comment by Chris on May 5, 2017 at 3:34am

Religion and Science aren't Compatible.

In Woo land what's called psychology many be considered science.

Is it?

Comment by Loren Miller on May 4, 2017 at 4:35pm

Bertold, that was the point I was making with my blog, Confrontational Reality and Donald J. Trump.  There are real situations out there which don't respond to schmoozing or spin and sure as hell aren't helped by prayer or appeals to some supposed higher power.  In the long term, no situation, exigent or not, is helped by applying ineffectual methods as a means toward resolution.

And insofar as mutually exclusive is concerned, I think that not only are faith and reason mutually exclusive, but that the presence of either one will compromise both the other and itself.  Irrational faith is as problematic in the presence of disciplined science as scientific methodology is dangerous to belief without basis.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 4, 2017 at 4:19pm

Ran into a pertinent comment on FB last night. [The writer is an airline pilot.]

Trusting anything outside reason will get you killed in my line of work. While faith and reason are not mutually exclusive, they are most definitely inversely related. The more you lean on one, the less you lean on the other.

Comment by Frankie Dapper on May 4, 2017 at 4:09pm

With all due respect this is a no-brainer issue.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 4, 2017 at 3:59pm

This is a topic which has been beaten to death over the years, from Stephen Jay Gould's non-overlapping magisteria to the winning entry of the 2009 CFI Blasphemy Contest: Faith Is No Reason.  It should surprise no one that I side with the latter, as those four words have been at the top of my A|N page since I first arrived here!

The fact is that faith and religion have been repeatedly demonstrated as failing at being a way of knowing anything.  They start out with assumed conclusions which aren't supposed to be questioned, then look for any superficial evidence to support their presupposition.  This is the utter opposite of science, which starts with observations and attempts to understand them, regardless of what the outcome may be.  Religion attempts to be absolute and unchanging (though indeed it does change, if slowly) and refuses to acknowledge any chance of error, while science constantly alters and updates itself and revels in discovering errors, because errors stand in the way of genuine learning and progress.

Long story short, the two could not be more different, and reconciliation between them is unlikely to the point of impossibility.



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