Today, via AIM, I had a conversation with a very strong minded Christian. I was curious as to what exactly she believed so we had a discussion about evolution, natural selection, Horus and the like. I feel the need to post some of the more memorable responses. The best one:
corim1234: Okay. It just seems like anything I asked you, you just said you don’t believe in it. What kind of proof has God given you to believe in Him? Surely physical evidence like the hieroglyphs or fossils are more?
heynicoleheyyy: i dont really have any proof
heynicoleheyyy: it’s just what i beleive
heynicoleheyyy: it’s that simple
I asked many times what was wrong with evolution or natural selection or something like that. Every time the response was, I don’t believe in it or don’t know. Not doesn’t agree with or something like that, doesn’t believe in it. Religion will never truly disappear in the presence of blind faith. Below are more sections from the chat. If you wish to download the chat in its entirety it is available here: http://bit.ly/5dnuE
I just don’t understand how someone can believe in anything so deeply without any form of justification. I am very passionate about my stance on atheism but at least I have some evidence to back things up like fossils. She admitted she has no proof but that doesn’t matter. More pieces of the chat below:
corim1234(Me): I mean you believe that God created the Earth in 7 days right?
heynicoleheyyy: yes i do
corim1234: Okay what are your thoughts on something like evolution and natural selection?
heynicoleheyyy: i mean i just dont believe in it. i dont see how we are like made into humas from monkeys or stuff
corim1234: Well thats a common misconception. We aren’t actually from monkeys. But there was a species before us from which monkeys and humans came from.
heynicoleheyyy: i dont really understand that
heynicoleheyyy: okay but how do you think the species got here in the very beginning
corim1234: Overtime species become more and more adapted to their surroundings. Some become so adapted they nolonger represent similar ones from their species.
corim1234: They came from less simpler creatures. I’m not saying life is not a miracle. The circumstances for it to happen were probably very improbable.
corim1234: Where do you think God came from?
heynicoleheyyy: thats another good question
heynicoleheyyy: i honestly have no idea
corim1234: Ok. Do you believe that He has always exisited?
heynicoleheyyy: yes i do
corim1234: So why couldn’t the universe have simply always existed?
heynicoleheyyy: it could have but then how do you think it got here in the first place
corim1234: I don’t know. How did God get here in the first place?
heynicoleheyyy: i dont know
corim1234: Okay so lets say God created everything.
heynicoleheyyy: mkay mkay
corim1234: To create something as complicated as life(Assuming you agree life is complex.) wouldn’t God Himself have to be many times more complex than what he is creating?
corim1234: What I am saying is that an arrow can’t make an archer. To create something you have to be more intelligent than what you are creating.
heynicoleheyyy: yeah you’re right
heynicoleheyyy: but God is amazing and can do anything
corim1234: Okay. So how did God come into existence? Wouldn’t there have to be someone more powerful to create Him? I mean God would have to very very powerful. He listens to millions of prayers every minute and He created us. You agree something that complex can’t just “appear”. What makes Him an exception.
corim1234: And I am not trying to offend you or anything, just wondering what you think.
heynicoleheyyy: no i know you arent trying to offend me.
heynicoleheyyy: those are all great questions but unffortunately no one can answer.
corim1234: The Bible was written by men though. It wasn’t even originally written in English. Actually it wasn’t orginally written down. Its been translated and transcribed hundreds of times. How do you know it is still 100% accurate?
heynicoleheyyy: i mean it could be some different words. theres a lot of different versions of the bible. some of them have just a few words different. but they are basically all the same