Is LSD Use Always Wrong and what is Mystical Experience

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What is Mystical Experience? Please don't confuse this with Theist babbles.

Often atheists can be as over zealous as theists. What I mean is, they throw the baby out with the wash.

I for one acknowledge mystical consciousness and make no claim to its tie in with proof of a Creator.

I say this because if we're sane, when we open our eyes we distinguish reality from dream worlds. There are some kinds of mental disorders that make persons not easily tell a dream, off line experience, to the daily sensory processing we call real or life.

I as an avocation work with mystical forms that tresspass beyond the accepted and to my mind create a sort of subjective, non drug induced hypnotic reverie.

One piece I include here for samples. Its called Cosmic Riders. (Mp3 File)

That said, the religious community, especially Judeo-Christian faiths, have always strongly condemned any chemical injection or ingestions, causing and blurring of the hum-drum animal existence the sensory modalities provide us.

If any mystical experience either induced by psychotropics or mediataions could be obtained, they denied them or attributed them to works of Satan herself fooling the elect.

So it is with any dimensions beyond our dull animal three-D and time, our brains provide us.

But, wait a minute, I would say, stop and consider the strange Nature of quantum mechanics. Nobody really understands it, but it seems to say time and space are in some ways illusions. Our brains allow us a limited version of the reality because if we sensed more we might go into shock.

During the 1960's before religion forced government to ban all psychotropics, even in the lab, a good start was made in trying to understand how our brains work. What for example is hypnosis?

Why should it work and why doesn't it work with particular types of personalities?

I'll revisit this topic in a future Blog. Thanks for Reading.

I believe all reported experience is in some ways limited and artifical, and in addition, could hardly reject the reports from the meditators or mystics. These experiences qualify as just as real as theSun in the sky and smoke and mirrors.

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Comment by Gary Epstein on March 4, 2010 at 4:00pm
JPM, Yes, but consider this. Your brain is probably somewhat like a computer, but obvious more than that. The brain processes perceptual input and constructs a reality. That realty is probably not directly a one to one with what you think.

So, my point is, the LSD may create or perhaps distort, the normal perceptual reality.
Does that make one more real than another? We obviously think we know the answer, but do we really?
Comment by J.P.M. on March 4, 2010 at 2:57pm
I think that 'reality' from a human perspective is partly a function of perception. If you take LSD, the reality of your perceptions changes. What you are having is a real experience in your mind. It is overly simplistic to say that psychedelics 'warp reality'. They produce different states of consciousness and provide you temporarily with an altered viewpoint on the world. It's been along time, but I do speak from experience.
Comment by Tom Thompson on March 1, 2010 at 12:10pm
"Why should the brain be the final judge of what is real."

Huh? It isn't. If it can be said that there is an objective reality it is definitely not constrained to human perception. A single individual's reality may differ significantly from another person's reality because their perceptions differ. That isn't objective reality. Modifying your perceptions or the functioning of the brain with chemicals doesn't alter objective reality either. You may fancy that it does but that is only your brain playing tricks on you.
Comment by Gary Epstein on March 1, 2010 at 8:53am
Just a thought here. Why should the brain be the final judge of what is real. Is this realness a kind of consenus of perceptions. Psychologist have long shown time, events and perceptions are culturally structured.

Another example, the retina of the eye is like a camera. It projects an inverted (upside down),
picture to the visual cortex. Babies see the world upside down until they can program their brains to change it.

So reality is a relative thing, not an absolute in anyway.
Comment by Sonny Mobley on March 1, 2010 at 1:03am
Indeed, Tom, indeed. Reality is reality.
Comment by Tom Thompson on February 28, 2010 at 9:44pm
Chemicals alter the brain's operation and the individual's perception of reality. This can be a pleasant experience but I am highly skeptical of the assertion that reality is changed because your perception of it has changed.
Comment by Sonny Mobley on February 28, 2010 at 3:23pm
LSD rocks.



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