14th Amendment - history's most radical ideas

http://bigthink.com/videos/van-jones-14th-amendment-is-one-of-histo...

He's right, we don't talk about it enough. How many of you know what the 14th amendment even says? I didn't know until he told me in his video.

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Comment by Frankie Dapper on March 22, 2018 at 2:04am

Jones' assertion that our 14th amendment is unique, is radical, in 10,000 yrs of history is untrue. While the history of early USA and Europe used status of the affected parties and therefore negated any implicit equal protection that is not the case any longer in Europe and Scandinavia and probably Australia and some South American nations. Were it not for a history of discrimination in the USA a clause from the 14th amendment, namely equal protection, would be implicit. The fact Americans are proud of it is more a condemnation of our history than an apotheosis of our constitution. 

Also Jones makes an error in understanding equal protection when he commits non sequitur that relates to first amendment rights, not 14th amendment rights. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2018 at 1:27am

Define for me ways "bones jones is wrong in some shit he says."

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2018 at 1:24am

"Equal protection under the law!" Van Jones states it so clearly, yet for 200 years we have not lived to that criteria. Equal protection, except for African-Americans, women, Native Americans, Asians, the list does not reveal all the exclusions, yet, white, christian, male, land-owning individuals lived in a priveleged positions and rationalized the exclusion of those "others!"

Our documents promised something better, more inclusive, Equal protection for all under the law! It never happened!

We see another trend that violates our notion of what it means to be an American: work hard, be responsible and accountable, pay your fair share of taxes, and protect the young, weak, and elderly. The free-market exists where the market determines the price of goods and services by supply and demand without intervention of government, price-setting monopoly, or any other authority. 

A systematic crushing of the working-class wage-worker, transfering wealth from the paid labor force to those who own financial assets such as stocks and bonds, does not happen by accident. Laws that weaken those who labor and enrich banking and financial institutions legalize wage-theft.

Trump offers an exact model of how that is done. He refused to pay his workers fair wages for jobs he wanted done. He claims the workers did not do a proper job, or were too slow, or other mechinations to steal  wages from workers. 

"A BROADLY ENCOMPASSING term, wage theft can include paying workers less than the minimum wage, forcing them to work off the clock, not paying them for overtime, or not paying them at all.

"These practices have long been a reality—a 2010 UCLA Labor Center report found that low-wage workers in Los Angeles alone lose roughly $26 million in wage-theft violations each week—but under President Trump, the problem is quickly becoming exacerbated, according to multiple sources who monitor these matters."

How Trump Made Wage Theft Routine

"At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA Today Network, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others. ...

Businessman friend of Donald Trump says he 'always pays his bills p...

There is no Santa Clause, no Prince coming to the rescue, no redeemer to provide for the rising costs of eduation, health care, rising fuel costs, and the expected rising cost of water. So, what is a working person to do? 

Homesteading, anyone?

Comment by Loren Miller on March 21, 2018 at 10:17pm

Let's spell it out here, shall we?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution stands in a level of importance equal to the 4th and 5th Amendments, insofar as HUMAN RIGHTS are concerned.  Note that the text makes no exception for religion (or lack thereof), ethnic background, skin color, or (though this wasn't a concern at the time) sex or sexual orientation.  Yet sadly, there have been those who have run for office (at least one and Republican, predictably!) who wished to repeal the 14th Amendment and stated so as a part of their platform, doubtless to maintain white, male, Christian privilege.

THAT is what we have fought against, what we fight now, and what we will have to continue to fight going forward.  There will always be bigots who aspire to power, and we cannot grant them that power.

Comment by Frankie Dapper on March 21, 2018 at 8:50pm

what r u high?

of course i know. 

and it aint that radical...england got rid of slavery and gave women da vote before us.  14th was in response to dred scott decision which was fucking barbaric- without the impetus from that abomination who knows if and when the 14th or a facsimile would have been adopted ...also bones jones is wrong in some shit he says...so fuck the free world

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