The utter insanity of Christianity (wow - that rhymes!)

I have been following the comment thread over at - and ran across the following exchange (names have been deleted to protect the guilty):

commenter 1 (a Christian)

Wow, the tone here is so interesting. Such great anger and pompousness, against God himself, even. Hmmm. He is not going to accept any of your excuses on Judgment Day. He is going to show you all of the ways he revealed himself to you quite clearly. Attributing evil character to God is a great sin, and very difficult to overcome, indeed. he is not evil, but holy. In Job 40:7-8 God states,
“Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

Would you discredit my justice?
Would you condemn me to justify yourself?”

A typical drive commenter on a site dedicated to de-converted Christians..

The first reply...

In the same way that you do not feel threatened by Zeus’ thunderbolts, Fenrir’s destructive power, Mars’ raging and war-like nature, or the judgment of Allah, Quetzalcoatl or Ahura Mazda, we don’t fear the empty threats of hellfire or judgment that you declare your God will punish us with. They’re all empty threats mate. Once you realize why you reject all other gods, goddesses, and mythological entities, you’ll realize why we reject yours.

Hint: Because they don’t exist…

Oooohhh - smack-down 1

commenter 1's reply

Some day you will have a rude awakening when you see Jesus face to face.

Only if it is Zombie Jesus...

Reply to the reply...

Some day you will have a rude awakening when you see Odin face to face. I know that you feel hopelessly lost without him, but you must only pray and he will restore your faith. If you continue in your sinful ways, you will have no one but yourself to blame when you are devoured by Fenrir at the end of time.

Smack-down 2

commenter 1


Why are most (not all) Christians unable to think logically? Is there truly an inverse correlation between religious belief and intelligence? Richard Dawkins mentioned a meta analysis of 43 studies attempting to compare religious belief and intelligence at a talk given at TED. And indeed, such a correlation was found.

And since correlation does not necessarily imply causation - my question is - does religion make you stupid or are more stupid people attracted to religion?

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Comment by Drew on July 24, 2008 at 1:12pm
Religious belief is correlated with several others, which also have causational effect upon each other. The societies that are most religious also rank poorly on every other economic and social indicator.

The decline of religiosity in advanced nations came AFTER secularism, intellectual Enlightenment, liberal democracy, freedom of the press, universal education, universal suffrage, universal medical care (which is partly why the US lags others), (some degree of) gender equality, (some degree of) inter-racial tolerance, and birth control.

The rate of atheism increases as an entire society makes certain positive educational, social, and economic choices. However, within societies, it is the less intelligent who cling to religious belief longer, and the more intelligent who reject theism first, as long as the society allows them to do so without immediate threat of personal injury. Obviously, this is a broad oversimplification; family and social pressure, or personal trauma, are powerful modifying factors in retaining religion.

I've yet to meet a highly educated person from a stable family which is non-religious or only moderately religious, who became fundamentally or evangelically religious without the impetus of extreme personal trauma. I've heard anonymous people CLAIM this on the internet after I've said I think it never happens, but since theists lie to themselves every day, and will lie for the "cause", I reject these claims as fictional.

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