Sometimes getting called out is the best thing that can happen to you. I wrote about being skeptical the other day and got some good comments that basically told me I did it wrong and wasn't nearly skeptical enough in my examples. So after mulling it all over carefully, and taking a nap, I finally figured out what I was trying to say in the first place. Be skeptical! But this time, I think I made my point more clearly...
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Comment by Neece on August 19, 2008 at 12:09pm
Hi again Joy,
Yes, indoctrination is a horrible thing. I totally agree with how you explained how it turns their world upside down in ways they can't see.

What I meant by "it's hardwired into us" was another way to say that society and parents indoctrinate us. That phrase is not correct. I think we've had religion since the beginning of time because we were desperate for answers and understanding. But I think there have always been very intelligent people who have questioned that flawed logic.

I don't think we're hardwired. The term is wrong. I think we're programmed by family and society with flawed logic from the time we're born. And that keeps us submissive and afraid.

Thanks for this discourse, Joy.
Comment by AtheistJoy on August 18, 2008 at 6:00pm
I was actually thinking of the Red Bull stuff.

I totally agree with you about the indoctrination. It blocks people from seeking out other answers to questions. It makes them uncomfortable that the people that they trusted might have been wrong. It turns their entire world upside down in ways they don't even see.

Something struck me about a phrase that you used: It’s hardwired into us.

I wonder about that sometimes. Religion has always baffled me. I never really got it. I asked questions that made the adults teaching my Sunday School class uncomfortable. They sent me to the pastor. He finally gave up and used the whole "mystery of god" on me. They finally made my dad the Sunday School teacher. Oh well.

I wanted to believe the way that others believed, but I couldn't even pretend that I did - It just felt wrong and dishonest. I often thought about how much easier it would be to just become "one of them" though.

So, are some of us physically hardwired to believe and others missing some crucial physical component that sets off our beliefs? What do you think?
Comment by Neece on August 18, 2008 at 1:11pm
Thanks Mark. Yes, exactly. Indecision is a decision in itself.
Thanks for making me think. I appreciate it. Constructive criticism is always welcome. :)
Comment by Mark on August 18, 2008 at 5:48am
Yup, what Joy said. Sometimes we gotta pick a direction and start walking. I think there's a term for what happens if we don't. Decision paralysis or something like that.

Good work on the both posts! And sorry for being a hardarse!
Comment by Neece on August 17, 2008 at 11:22pm
Excellent point. I wholeheartedly agree, Joy. There comes a time when you have to make a decision and decide where you stand.
I was talking mainly (in the full post) about being skeptical of the beliefs in god(s) that we're indoctrinated with from an early age.
Yes, I agree, we all muddle through as best we can and yeah, I'm just saying be mindful of your sources of information, and don't get all your beliefs from one source.
Thanks very much for commenting!
Comment by AtheistJoy on August 17, 2008 at 11:01pm
You can't be so skeptical that you don't believe anything though. And at some point we have to stop looking at evidence and make decisions.

Plus, in the long run, I think most of us muddle through the best we can. I mean, there's a million sources of disinformation out there and at least a hundred sources of good information. It all comes down to who you are inclined to trust the most, I suppose.

Anyway...LoLCats Gotta have 'em. :)



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