Hi there - I run an online learning website and a speaker has been making the secular circuit in my neck of the woods talking about a reality based approach to life.


I asked him to create an online program - and this is what he came up with - https://humanistlearning.com/7-words-that-can-change-the-world/  (It's free - no sign up required - just log in as a guest)

It's basically another approach to teaching Humanism, making the case for a secular approach to reality and what the implications are for living life given reality.

What all do you think of this?  

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Comment by Daniel W on September 9, 2016 at 11:20pm
I won't go the the link. You may think me a curmudgeon, and you might be right. Atheist Nexus is an online community, where people discuss things in their lives, share what is important to them, commiserate, communicate, share, and spout off.

Posting a topic like "7 important words" that one then needs to leave the website to see what they are, is click bait. It's using Atheist Nexus to drive traffic, for free, to your website. If you don't participate in the Atheist Nexus community, and don't contribute financially - there is no badge indicating that you do - but you post a teaser to entice traffic to your own website - click bait - then I feel that we have been disrespected. It's taking advantage of the community without contributing to it.
Comment by Jennifer Hancock on September 7, 2016 at 12:39pm

Thanks for the feedback Loren.  I will share with Joe. I think he is trying to reach out to the spiritual but not religious crowd with this program. I'm not sure if they will respond in the same way that religionists do. As you say - willful ignorance will remain ignorant. But for those that are searching and open to new ideas - maybe?

Comment by Loren Miller on September 6, 2016 at 1:11pm

A very good presentation ... with one major flaw: those who subscribe to religious belief will tune it out, almost as a knee-jerk reaction.  The facts presented are in conflict with their doctrine and dogma and therefore must be wrong as a matter of course.

The one problem that is not addressed by the 7 Words course is that of overcoming the irrationality on which such beliefs are founded.  Peter Boghossian has addressed this issue at least in part with his book, A Manual for Creating Atheists, but even with that, there are believers who will studiously resist being disabused of their faith.  Speaking the simple truth by itself will not change the minds of those who are determined to remain ignorant, especially when their ignorance is purposeful and the basis for a profit-making venture, as with those like Ken Ham, the Hovinds, and Pat Robertson.  It may be possible that, once atheism and humanism become more of a force in our society, that such people can be shamed out of the public spotlight and their influence mitigated if not utterly eliminated, but that day is liable to be a long time coming.

To change the world, people have to change, and there are an unfortunate number of people who are utterly determined NOT TO.

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