If by chance all the memory, history, myths and iconography were removed from the minds of the peoples who believe in religion, metaphysics, the paranormal and we Atheist were left untouched, meaning what changed the minds of the religious did not affect our minds, then what would we stand for?

Another way of putting it: if all christians went to bed and woke up with no memory of being a christian and all Atheist's woke up still thinking they were Atheists, how do you think we would deal with our non-belief in light of this new development?

We would have the memory that religion had once existed.
We would know the reason for our becoming Atheist's.

While running the risk of possibility of revealing to the now non-religious, that there was once religion in the world.
Would we do all of our best to never allow that information to get out?

I guess I am wondering, am I an atheist because religion exists? Are the two dependent upon each other or can they be exclusive?

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Comment by Bubba Tarandfeathered on March 17, 2010 at 7:30am
I just watched a really great video from AAI which explained the function of religion and how it essentially was a beneficial step in the evolution of society. I was most intrigued when the speaker explained that non-belief was actually functionally more complex, that disbelief is counter intuitive and it is a simpler process of the mind to believe in a deity.

Religious practice was a method to bring people together under a common goal and for replicating socializing memes. Who needs gods when we have facebook?
Comment by Jim DePaulo on March 15, 2010 at 6:09pm
Even if they woke up not knowing they were religious - would they still be irrational. If so we wouldn't have gained a lot - stupid will always find expression.
Comment by Bubba Tarandfeathered on March 15, 2010 at 11:53am
I think the problem I am wrestling with is, once again, identification, definition and recognition. If something one day existed and the next day it did not and all the while I had believed that it did not, then nothing changes for me. 0+0=0 So awhile ago I had a women tell me the sky was blue and that because science and popular belief says it blue then it is blue and it cannot be any other color. Except when I look at the sky I rarely ever see all blue but often shades of blue and red and yellow. To me the sky is multicolored and not one specific color. All this depends on what I believe is true to me and even though popular belief says this is this way I will never completely believe that. I don't think that its possible to fully eliminate religion, metaphysics and paranormal, because there always will be someone asking the question, "Is there more to our existence?" Or "What lies beyond our existence?" And then it will all start again!
Comment by Jas Brimstone on March 15, 2010 at 11:03am
The idea that atheism is dependant on religion existing is interesting, but when you break it down it just doesn't make sense. Of course the concept of atheism, indeed even the word itself, is dependant upon theism existing. However the actual lack of belief isn't dependant on there being those who do believe. The subject would simply become moot.
Think of it like this: Would afloozenbarbists exist if no one believed in floozenbarb? Of course. To the degree that the very definition of afloozenbarbism is NOT believing in floozenbarb. If no one believed in floozenbarb, then everyone would fit that definition. Since no one has ever believed in floozenbarb, the very concept becomes as nonsensicle as the word itself.
To that same end, if there were no theists, word atheism becomes as nonsensicle as afloozenbarbism.
If no one believed in god/s there would be no need for an antithetical proposition to the belief. But that very un-belief would fit the definition of atheism as we know it.

I think I'm going to lie down for a bit...



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