I took another look at the Muslim Demographics video and I’m quite dismayed. Unknowingly, I was recommending a Christian-based piece of propaganda.

I was so daunted by the Muslim growth statistics (> 8 per family) that I overlooked the purpose and intention of the video makers.

First of all, when a video or article starts off with, “According to research…” it should send up a red flag. What research? Any statement with that introduction should be suspect and carefully scrutinized. The narrator continues to tell us that in order for a culture to “maintain itself” for 25 years, there must be a fertility rate of at least 2.11 children per family. He goes on to tell us that most European countries has rates of < 2.0 offspring.

The fact is the planet needs 0.0 offspring per family for a few years—a pregnant pause. The earth needs time to rejuvenate in many ways: soil all over the world is near depletion, the seas cannot sustain fish populations with industrial fishing ravaging and working havoc on the marine biology. Whales are committing suicide; even immeasurable schools of herring, whose numbers reach into the trillions, are dwindling perilously. The base of the food change is not inexhaustible.

The video demonstrates how religion distorts and deranges perception of reality. At the end, the narrator divulges that it is Christian based and urges, “as believers, we call upon you to join the effort to share the gospel message in a changing world. This is a call to action.”

A Christian membot can only interpret this “call to action” as an exhortation to jump into bed and start making babies. They are likely to believe this snake oil salesman that their culture will disintegrate unless they meet the Muslim challenge baby for baby.

Afterthought: A close friend of Paul R. Ehrlich of Stanford tells me that he is quite disappointed with the ineffective results of his life’s work. The Population Bomb (1968) bombed in its predictions for mass starvation by the ‘80s. We’ll see how seriously he’s taken in the next two decades with the Muslim-Christian population war rampaging unchecked.

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Comment by Rich Goss on October 26, 2009 at 11:34am
Clarence, we’re in a new age. Wars are no longer capable of significantly limiting population growth because of the possibility of destroying the entire planet.

World population was insignificant as we look back at past cultures growing and declining. In the time of the ancient Romans and Greeks the world population was only a few million.

Nature is at her carrying capacity for humans, NOW. It’s a new ballgame and demographic patterns of history no longer apply.

The only question now is: How long can humanity sustain uncontrolled population growth before it destroys all advanced life on the planet?
Comment by Clarence Dember on October 26, 2009 at 7:46am
Many Anthropologists are quick to point out the evidence of societal growth and collapse and even abandonment, across the spectrum of time and cultures. Islam is just another note in that ongoing human symphony. By itself, it changes nothing over time.
Comment by Rich Goss on October 25, 2009 at 10:41pm
Jack, I couldn’t find it. Please, just post it here or send a link.

As far as the Christian video goes I didn't notice it until I saw the video a second time. "We as believers" changed everything. But yet, the numbers enumerated in the video were basically substantiated, though probably exaggerated.

There were also some references to the Islam/Christian population competition in the Jesus Camp video. That’ll really astonish you if you haven’t seen it.

What’s important to realize is that the planet is at its carrying capacity right now—with six million dying of starvation per year. A baby-making contest between two billion-strong cults is the last thing Gaia needs.
Comment by Rich Goss on October 25, 2009 at 6:57pm
Creature, I wrote a book on not accepting stereotypes. It's a bad way to think.

For instance, with a Polish name like Goscicki, would you believe that I was once in a fight in a Mafia bar in Queens for speaking Spanish to two Latino waiters from the Plaza Hotel? My wife is Cuban.

my home town didn't magically turn into Mexico Did you see the George Lopez HBO comedy hour? He was actually bragging about increasing Chicano hegemony. He warned politicians about the 42-million Latino votes. The whole country will be Latino by about 2030—according to Lopez. He told the sold-out San Antonio Civil Center the names of Repubican senators who veto the SotoMayor nomination.

It's un-American to vote as a block.
Comment by Creature on October 25, 2009 at 5:53pm
I wasn't accusing you of anything Richard, just the people behind the video.

I think the presentation in the video was very much a question of prejudice. Fear propaganda. When I was a little girl I lived in a community that had a large hispanic population, many of which were immigrants. It was pretty common for adults in the white community to overhear people speaking Spanish, glare at their children, then make a series of accusations. It usually went somewhere along the lines of, "They have more children then us, in X amount of years it'll be just like living in Mexico." This would then turn into a prejudiced rant about how they're sexist, rape their daughters, dishonest, dirty, lazy, etc. The other weekend, when visiting with my in-laws, they made the same population claim about Muslims followed by a series of prejudiced claims. And I'm sorry, but a pair of Christians that, insulted me at my wedding for not changing my last name, that travel the country armed to the teeth and pissed off, don't get to point fingers and say, "That guy's sexist, and we're worried he might start harming people."

Now last time I checked, my home town didn't magically turn into Mexico. The kids from the immigrant family adopted the American culture, not the other way around. Also, if every kid adopted the religious ideas of his/her parents, and didn't amend them at least a little, why are the nones increasing?
Comment by Rich Goss on October 25, 2009 at 4:43pm
Thanks for your input, Creature. I'm the most tolerant person you’d ever want to meet. But I’m also a former biology teacher. Let’s look at this problem from a scientific viewpoint. It’s not a question of prejudice. It’s a case of cold indisputable numbers.

One of the most important lessons my mother taught me: “Never make a pig out of yourself.” I wish corporate and political leaders had learned that also.

We’re talking about a multiplicative progression. Most people have little idea of its power. If one Muslim couple in France, as the video states, is having six kids on average, the rate of growth is astonishing and ominous. How about the Duggars with 18 offspring? If each kid has just half that number, Billy Bob (or whatever his handle is) and Bonnie Lou will produce 162 grandkids. And if the progression continues one more generation, they will manufacture 1458 great grandchildren.

Suppose each loyal and pious kid decided to honor and emulate their parents like the Forth Commandment tells them, and has, say, 15. Then the number shoots to 270 grandkids and 4050 grandchildren. In two generation the family could populate a small city called Duggarville. And you can bet the highest building will be a church.
Comment by Rich Goss on October 25, 2009 at 4:06pm
Mac, one of my favorite lines in Mirror Reversal is, “The leaders of the church hierarchy don’t give a damn – ‘cause they believe the world is going to be destroyed anyway. And it looks like it will, in a self-fulfilling prophecy. What a cruel ironic cosmic joke! Books written by goat herders and fishermen, determining the destiny of mankind and the entire planet.”

I wrote the above five years ago and the problem is worse now than ever. Humans are growing on the planet like bacteria on a rotting apple. And we can look forward to the likes of Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee running in 1212. They actually what the Apocalypse to come.
Comment by Creature on October 25, 2009 at 3:19pm
You know, when I was a child they used to say the same thing about Mexican immigrants. Before that I'm sure it was the Japanese or maybe the Vietnamese, and before that another group and another so long as there's been immigration. I do know that at one point it was the Irish, and another the Italians.

I'm sure religion plays a big part in the fear they're trying to generate, but I also see it as the same sort of racism repackaged for a new era.
Comment by Mac Rex on October 25, 2009 at 9:52am
Isn't it so ridiculously ironic that god tells his followers to "be fruitful and multiply", but that it is a sin to enjoy it?! Educated people tend to have fewer children, and I guess raising populations of any people infected with theist memes just emphasize the ignorance of the infected baby factories.
I don't know what else I can say, as everyone else has have made such good points.
Comment by Rich Goss on October 24, 2009 at 11:32pm
Dynamite comments. I happen to be very stoned tonight so I especially appreciate such insightful comments. That’s what it’s all about—ideas.

“Humanity is a peculiar ape infested by meme complexes.’ (Mirror ReversalPeppertree Press, 2007)

To me the above is what it’s all about: competing meme complexes with no other interest than their own replication. The Christian and Islamic meme complexes have no interest in the environment and would just as soon blow the whole thing up, like in a medieval joust.

Cliff, I think you're right but I hope not. You mean earthly rather than comic. Even if a comet or meteor from far outer space hit the Earth badly, it would still an earthy catastrophy. What happens on earth is cosmically insignificant.

I wrote about the imminent outlook for the planet a few times. I could pull up some interesting ideas about what is to occur. I'm only glad I'm 65.



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