Being Atheist must mean you are pro-abortion!
Watch this video. Make sure you have some hard liquor near you or you might attempt to punch the screen. Do not attempt this, you will damage your screen and possibly hurt your hand.
First of all, no one is really Pro-abortion. Really its for the right to be able to have one or not.
Mr. Geerup's entire argument here is that every fetus or zygote has a unique set of DNA so it is 'special' and aborting said fetus or zygote would be murder.
This argument didn't change my mind. Mainly because as many people, I believe that abortion should be the last option, not as a method of contraception. But conservatives believe woman shouldn't use contraception because many of them believe it is playing "God" in one way or another. Or they falsely believe that oral contraception, Birth control and the morning after pill are used to kill zygotes, which is not true.
My question to those who believe in abortion being illegal is this: what about tubal pregnancies? What about rape or incest? What if the mother is too young to give birth without it damaging her permanently?
There was a case of a 9 year old girl who was raped by her step father and was going to have twins. The catholic church said she should have the babies because aborting them would be wrong. They ignored the fact that doctors said that she and the babies would not survive. She may not even be able to carry them. I think it's ridiculous that the child be punished this way and take on a burden because of something horrible like this happened.
My other question is this: If abortion is illegal, then would every miscarriage need to be investigated? How would they do this? What if the mother was poor and could not afford health insurance and lost the baby because she had a medical condition that she did not know about?

I've also met many, many men who are pro-life. Really, how many of them are going to get pregnant? The issue of abortion being legal or not will not affect men as it would women. They should really put themselves into a woman's shoes for a while before spouting "All abortion is murder!" and that contraception is bad. They don't have to pop out 10 kids because they don't want to use contraception, we do.
Those are just some things I was thinking about.

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Comment by Chrys Stevenson on June 19, 2009 at 8:33am
Why do I feel compelled to say, "It's life, Jim, but not as we know it ..." ? ;-)

I get so annoyed with those who call themselves 'pro life'. Who the fuck isn't pro life? It's because I value the quality of life of both women and their children (born and unborn) that I support a woman's right to choose. That doesn't make me either 'pro-abortion' or 'anti-life'.
Comment by Lorien on June 18, 2009 at 11:52am
Joey, isn't that what I said?

If the fetus dies, isn't the body going to abort the pregnancy? If it doesn't, then assisted abortion is done.
Comment by Joey on June 18, 2009 at 12:01am
Oh jeez...As soon as I saw VenomfangX I knew I wasn't going to make it through it. I sat through as much as I could. ;)

I tend to hang out with liberals, and I can't say I've ever met a single person that actually was pro-abortion. Pro-right-to-have-one, yes. Actually wanted more abortions to occur, no.

Lorien: The vast majority of women that have late term abortions *have* to have one. If the lifers had their way, a woman that had a fetus die in the fourth or fifth month would be stuck carrying it to term or to her grave. For them either is fine.
They aren't pro life. They never have been. They've always been anti-woman.

I will typically correct people that assume I'm pro-choice because I'm an atheist. I *am* pro-choice, but atheism has nothing to do with it, and not all atheists are pro-choice. Hell, usually I'm just happy when they don't assume "Doesn't believe in god = worships satan".
Comment by Hekate Moon on June 17, 2009 at 9:33pm
I don't think people really should get abortions unless it's under pretty extreme circumstances. In order to lower the abortion rate, we need to educate people on birth control, something religious people fight against.
Comment by Lorien on June 17, 2009 at 7:35pm
But I also don't think the fetus should not be aborted in the third trimester unless there is risk to the health of the mother or the fetus is not normal.
Comment by Lorien on June 17, 2009 at 7:29pm
I am conservative atheist and I am pro choice! Not a US conservative though!
Comment by zeeman barzell on June 17, 2009 at 6:38pm
If men could get pregnant, there would be drive through abortions clinics and contraceptives would be as available as toothpicks near the exit of a restaurant.

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