I'm leaving A/N because it's not the right fit for me (translation: some people are arseholes an I've got more important battles to fight and idiots to inform), but I'm not leaving the atheist internet as a whole!

You can still keep in touch with me in a shocking variety of ways. Remember when land line phone was the *only* way to reach someone? Hah! That's not even on the list, but everything else is.

Blog: Angie the Anti-Theist
Email angieantitheist [at] gmail [dot] com
Twitter: @antitheistangie
Facebook: Angie Jackson
Friend Feed : Angie Jackson

EDIT: You can now find me on YouTube!

I'm going to leave my A/N account active, so this page will stay available and because it's annoying as hell when someone goes and all their discussions are left with big gaping holes where their comments used to be.

Best wishes A/N. Ihope it works out for y'all.

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Comment by Angie Jackson on October 30, 2009 at 2:24am
FreeThinker - While I'm flattered you want me to stay, there are far more bullies than you imagine. I have spoken with brother richard and this parting is on goo terms, but this is not my crusade. I want to focus my energies into my blog and my book, not trying to teach grown men and women how to act civilly on an internet forum. If I wanted to do that level of adult babysitting, I would have stayed married.

I will ask you to please edit your comment or delete it to remove names. I'm not interested in having a "we all hate so-and-so, too!" conversation in the comments here anymore than I want a flamewar or an attack an my character or requests for my ovum.

I don't CARE anymore. Iam utterly burned out on giving a shit about this sit and the behavior of its members. I wish you the best, but I'm not gonna be part of it.

(If you don't respond, I'm sorry but I'll have to delete your comment, because otherwise people *will* respond and this is my goodbye post, not an "air your dirty a/n laundry" post. Thank you.)
Comment by Atheist Exile on October 30, 2009 at 1:22am

Don't go. Stay here.

If you believe in justice, then Felch needs to be put down. I know of several members he has harassed, hounded and stalked. He is the one bad thing about A|N that I know of. His behavior is inexcusable and if nobody will stop him, he'll completely ruin the open nature of this social network.

It's a pity that the moderators haven't stepped up to the plate. I happen to know that Felch has been warned, a long time ago. However, his popularity makes him more powerful . . . too powerful unless others stand up to him. That's why you should stay. I'm thinking of creating a group called "Bullies Suck", in which we never mention anybody by name but we all know who we're talking about BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE HERE AT A|N.

The people with the power to do something about Felch have failed us miserably. You don't have to be one of his victims to see what a cancer he is. It's one thing to be a curmudgeon but quite another to be a bully.

The way I see it, the powers-that-be fear the repercussions of banning Felch. They might foresee a huge defection by his supporters. But I say that the people who have already left and who will in the future (if Felch thinks he can operate with impunity) will eventually outweigh any defectors. I've found another Ning atheist site with almost 3300 members. I won't name it here, out of respect for A|N. I don't believe the owner of that site would allow a poison, like Felch, to persist for long . . . particularly if he knows members are defecting to his site because of Felch.

Any reasonable person can see how ugly Felch is when he starts up his harassment campaigns. He should be stopped or banned. Let him spew his poison but don't let him hound, harass and stalk other members.

Join the cause of decency -- don't surrender. You don't need to get as ugly as Felch if you've got friends who recognize him for what he is. Together, we can stop his campaigns of harassment.
Comment by Angie Jackson on October 28, 2009 at 1:08pm
Thanks Dawn K. Nothing but love for you and yours too :)
Comment by Dawn K on October 28, 2009 at 12:40pm
I'm sorry to hear you have decided to leave. I don't post much in the main forums so I'm basically out of the loop although I've seen plenty of flame wars and black and white thinking. Good luck with your other online endeavors and love to that little boy of yours.
Comment by Angie Jackson on October 28, 2009 at 11:42am
Okay, let me just say it again "In far too many of the 400 discussions I participated in, flame wars broke out, often between two people on my friends list. I'm a peace-keeper at heart (and that was my job in my dysfunctional family, so I'm pretty good at it) so the constant fighting and sort of strident, nasty, bickering attitude got to me."

sydni I've reported you to brother richard STOP. How freaking old are you anyway?
Comment by Angie Jackson on October 28, 2009 at 6:03am
Hey Lorien - I won't be back unless there are some serious changes to the Nexus, but I wish everyone else all the best. My openness on the internet is conscious choice, not foolishness. :)
Comment by Lorien on October 28, 2009 at 5:43am
You'll be back and maybe you'll change your name, photos and possibly your style. I left once before getting rid of any personal identification of me on here - I was harassed and threatened by a real bad individual on here who has left since then. I have learned my lesson on internet privacy but my friends know who I am. I think you were a friend of mine in my previous incarnation.

You'll be bacK. There really isn't another A/N.

I went to the AAI convention in Burbank recently and the real atheist community is awesome. You should try one of those conventions.

See you around.
Comment by Angie Jackson on October 28, 2009 at 12:51am
Buh-bye Felch. Someone else thinks your demeanor is cute, hell LOTS of A/N seems to think so. Atheist Nexus is a bully's playground, but I'm neither a bully nor a victim so yeah, I'll go. Have a nice life.
Comment by Angie Jackson on October 28, 2009 at 12:31am
Felch and Sydni - I wasn't going to name names, but you both JUST tried to get into a flame war on "I'm leaving Atheist Nexus because of all the sexism and stupid flame wars". I don't know that woman or why she commented on my blog, but it's YOUR comments I deleted.

Because you are the ones I am so fucking sick of reading (not the only ones, just 2 of the top 5 reasons I'm leaving A/N)
Comment by Angie Jackson on October 27, 2009 at 9:31pm
Nerd - the breeder was the straw the broke the camels back, but the straws have been piling up for a while. I talked with a mod today and I've emailed Brother Richard. Personally, I think the site would run smoother if he delegated more responsibility for policing the boards to the Mods, but that's just my opinion. My own social network only has 4 people and one of them is my mom, so it's been pretty simple for me to keep on top of things :p

To everybody: I'm not and never really have been a major feminist. I support feminist goals and ideals, but I'm not a feminist activist and I have a negative desire (less than zero) to spend time talking with numbnuts. However, overt sexism was not the only problem. In far too many of the 400 discussions I participated in, flame wars broke out, often between two people on my friends list. I'm a peace-keeper at heart (and that was my job in my dysfunctional family, so I'm pretty good at it) so the constant fighting and sort of strident, nasty, bickering attitude got to me. I seek out atheist forums for a sense of community and camaraderie. Obviously I've found that with some of you, and I hope to continue seeing you on the interwebs. (And I really hope you all eventually buy my book once it's finished, hint hint.)

Finally, I saw too much of what looked like "black and white thinking" to me. Sure, we all agree on the god question, but not necessarily anything else - that's fine. But whether it was "potheads have a religion" or "white men are jerks" or "there's no point talking to christians - they are teh stoopid" - time and time again I saw people unwilling to listen to a reasoned countering viewpoint without decending into name calling and false-troll labeling. It feels like an unhealthy, hostile environment. I think it may be possible for the Nexus to save itself, but it is not my mission or my passion. My blog is my passion and I hope to see you all there.

Peace and good will - Angie

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