From my Google blogger Atheism Blog.

A Christian I was debating on Google+ in one of his replies to a post I added on How the universe could have become as it is without a Creator, said that the earth was devoted to destruction, and so I wrote a blog post on my atheism blog on the "devoted to destruction" idea in the Old Testament.

In the Old Testament of the King James Bible the term "Devoted To Destruction" is used as a verb about fifty times, and as a noun about thirty times, and it comes from the Hebrew word charam with a guttural "ch". It can mean depending on how the Old Testament uses it, "to put under the ban", "devoted to destruction", "to exterminate", "to ostracize", and "to excommunicate". It was often used with the meaning of exterminating rival tribes, including the old, women, and children, and many times even all the animals of that tribe who worshiped gods other than Yahweh, or even members of the Hebrew tribe who worshiped another god. It refers to holy war, a thing invented by the ancient Hebrews, at least according to the Old Testament.
I was debating with a person who I shall not name elsewhere online, and he told me during our debate that the earth is devoted to destruction [by God]. This is a sure sign of a fundamentalist Christian, the most fanatical and dangerous kind of Christian. It is no wonder why corporates like big oil are polluting oceans and the air we breath, and really the entire ecosystem, and while other corporations are cutting down all the forests and rain forests, and the coal corporates are also polluting our air, etc., and etc. They don't care about what their activities are doing to the earth, because they all believe it's devote to destruction, and they'll have a new world after they destroy this one, a false hope. Someone like that in the White House would have no problem or worries when it came to pushing "The button" and engaging in nuclear destruction with other nuclear nations, and getting us all destroyed, because they think this world is expendable, not realizing in their blindness that this is the one and only world we get, because there is no God, at least one like Yahweh and his son Yeshua (Jesus), There will be no pie in the sky and a new earth.

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Comment by Michael Penn on November 17, 2014 at 11:40am

Yes, devoted to destruction. The many translations here of the word "devoted" are the same as saying "set aside for" or "given over to." The solid marks of a fundamentalist Christian include the fact that we get a New Heaven and a New Earth. Therefore they believe it doesn't matter what you do to the planet in any way. God will set that right again later because this earth is "devoted to destruction."

You are right, Tony, in saying it is time we woke up. This is the only earth we get. The scarey thing here is that not only do fundamentalist Christians believe the earth was devoted to destruction, they also seem to be working towards that end. If there was a button to be pushed one of them would gladly step forward to push it.

We can also see the facts of apologetics stepping in with this phrase and using it to explain away why the Old Testament god was a jealous and insane maniac. Just mark his bad deeds as something that was "devoted to destruction" and you have god being perfect once again.

Comment by Anthony Jordan on November 15, 2014 at 7:41pm

Freethinker31, I really believe the far right and especially the religious right really don't care what happens to this earth, because some of them are associated with the Dominionist movement, who is made up largely of Christian fundamentalists who believe Christ will not return to earth to save us until all evil is wiped from the face of the earth during a time of unparalleled destruction and tribulation. And once all life on earth is in great peril of being wiped out after all evil is eradicated and only the believers remain, then will Christ return from Heaven to save all who are left on earth who have been, so to speak, purified by fire.

They just don't care. They're trying to rush the end of days in order to bring Christ back from Heaven, who will then rule for on earth from Jerusalem for some period of time (some believe it will be a literal one thousand years), during which time the Devil has tempted a great many people left on earth to join his cause for one last attempt to defeat Christ and the righteous, at which time fire will come down from Heaven and completely destroy the earth and usher in the last judgment where Christ will judge all the dead and cast the wicked into the lake of fire and create this expected new world for the saved to live on.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 15, 2014 at 12:22pm

Belief in any "other-worldly" reality as formalized by Plato and co-opted by Christianity is what Nietzsche regarded as the root cause of our failure to properly steward the earth. I've posted this elsewhere, but this was his recipe for the cure:

>In The Gay Science . . . Nietzsche presents an experimental naturalism

> that can be read as adumbrating the entirety of his philosophical activity.

> There, having proclaimed the death of God he calls for the "de-deification"

> of nature, along with the "naturalization" of the human being. The

> first part of this ambitious program requires us to expunge the

> residual "shadows of God" from our conceptions of nature, rooting out

> any vestiges of stability, immutability, and purpose-characteristics

> that Nietzsche sees as wishful "aesthetic anthropomorphisms" and

> resentful falsifications of the sovereignty of becoming. The second

> part requires that humankind itself be "translated . . . back into

> nature" in both anthropological and axiological terms. This involves,

> among other things, a more modest reconceptualization of the human

> being's place within the aleatory flux of nature - particularly with

> regard to the "false order of rank" that we have mendaciously read

> into our relation to other animals.

from Peter Grof, Who Is Zarathustra's Ape?

Comment by Luara on November 15, 2014 at 12:10pm

Another Christian rationalization for the Amalekite genocide

Comment by Luara on November 15, 2014 at 11:53am

I don't know if defending genocide as the order of a good God means someone is a psychopath, but it's certainly very disturbing to hear that from Christians who supposedly are held to a high moral standard by their religion.

It's so nice to be a nonbeliever and not have to defend atrocities!

It's unlikely that Jesus actually claimed to be divine - Jesus claims divinity only in the Gospel of John, which was written a long time after the death of Jesus and contains a lot of Christian theology that was developed after Jesus' death.  He likely did see himself as the Messiah, though.  From Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millenium by Bart Ehrman. 

There's an interesting Letter to Jesus from the ex-Christian New Testament scholar Gerd Lüdemann.  (studying the Bible analytically has a way of deconverting people)

And yes, Jesus almost certainly existed. 

See Did Jesus Exist?, a good book summarizing the evidence and debunking Jesus mythicism, by Bart Ehrman, a leading historian and Bible scholar, and a nonbeliever.

Also see Jesus: Evidence and Argument or Mythicist Myths? by Maurice Casey, another leading (deceased) historian and Bible scholar, also a nonbeliever.

Comment by Anthony Jordan on November 15, 2014 at 9:52am

I must have accidentally deleted the other person's comment, whose name I already forgot. If you're the one who I deleted, please re-comment it to the best of your memory; something about how you used to buy into this devoted to destruction idea before you became an atheist. I was going to reply to your comment also. If I deleted it by accident I don't even know how I did it. That was a first for me.

Comment by Anthony Jordan on November 15, 2014 at 9:46am

Luara, my personal opinion is that a person has to be a psychopath to believe and justify that kind of Old Testament nonsense, this possibly may also include people who believe in and justify the New Testament doctrine of Hell, including Jesus, if he really existed , as a mere human being, and not a Messiah or divine son of God but falsely or delusionally claimed to be divine, indeed, was the first person to teach this evil doctrine.

Comment by Anthony Jordan on November 15, 2014 at 9:36am

Joan Denoo, you are correct in believing human beings will likely go extinct from their horrible raping of earth's resources, and unless the earth is completely obliterated before we go extinct by an asteroid big enough, the earth will still be here until our star, the sun goes red giant and either burns the earth to a cinder, or reduces it to a lifeless, waterless, plantless, dried up ball of rock, a few billions years hence. But we humans, by then, likely will have been long gone.

Comment by Luara on November 15, 2014 at 4:16am

I brought up the genocide of the Amalekites in 1 Samuel 15:3 to a Christian:

This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

They said that God isn't just a God of love, but also a God of "justice and order". 

And that it was doing the babies a favor to kill them because God knew they would grow up to be evil people. 

I just hope that when people say such things, there's something inside them that revolts at the thought. 

Religious people lay claim to morality - but defending God's orders for genocide makes them look like psychopaths - because who but a psychopath could defend spitting babies on swords?  Does their religion make them into psychopaths?

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 14, 2014 at 10:03pm

This Earth, as we know it, changes over time and will continue to change long after all human life is extinguished. Sadly the extinguisher appears to be by human activity. Who know how long Earth would continue as a perfect place for living things, including humans, if we had not been so reckless. 

Human hubris will be our downfall, but not the Earth's, at least as much as I can discover. After we are gone, the sharks, cockroaches, and viruses will continue on their merry way, with the sun rising and setting each day and the tides going in and out. 

We will return to molecule and atoms, just as we were before we were conceived. So, if we want to be conscious we have to do it now while we are alive. There is no there, there. No heaven, no hell, nothing. 

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