The DNC betrayed their people's interests, when they had a candidate that galvanized stadiums with his words and brought in independents, they silenced his words so they could have their piece of the establishment pie. When they were caught lying and doing bad things instead of taking responsibility they pointed fingers at Russia. 3rd party voters didn't split the vote, the Democrats split their own votes by putting up a second Republican. The Democrats just lost the house and are shrinking by the moment.

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Comment by kathy: ky on November 14, 2016 at 2:42pm
Jennifer, I agree with everything you just said. Bernie was my first choice too. Hillary became the lesser of two evils. I don't imagine I'll live long enough to see this mess turn around. And, with life expectancy being what it is, that's probably twenty something years or more. I worry more for my child and grandchildren.
Comment by tom sarbeck on November 12, 2016 at 11:48pm

The DNC represents one of America's elites. The RNC represents the other. They cooperate more than they compete.

Libertarians are ideologues and say their dogma.will fix America. Few trust them.

Will America's Greens do what Germany's Greens long ago did and attract enough voters to become a national party?

Okay, some whining is inevitable. When we get it out of our systems, what will we do?

Comment by Jennifer W on November 12, 2016 at 2:37pm
I'm pissed off because the Democrats took their demographics for granted and felt they were entitled for votes. They talked down to Bernie voters calling them Bernie Bros, talked down millenials telling them to fall in line, talked down to Trump voters calling them Deplorables. That's not how you persuade people to vote for you. What was her stance on BLM or NoDAPL? What was her campaign besides Trump fear? When did she take any responsibility from the Podesta Wikileaks? Not that I personally like a piece of shit degenerate loudmouth scam artist like Trump but he should've never w, especially if they went with the true populist candidate in Bernie. Hell I was reading an article today from Bernie and nowhere did he called Trump voters names.

The Democrats did nothing to get the independent votes. Heck during the primaries they were either pushing away or has it in their legislation to not have them, in which would've helped Bernie extensively.
Comment by kathy: ky on November 10, 2016 at 6:53pm
Jennifer, your description of Hillary sounds like a description of trump. At least Hillary didn't sexually assault women. As far as we know. Every damned one of them need to get out of bed with the banks and corporations.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 10, 2016 at 6:52pm

The two-party system has been a long-standing joke, and we've finally gotten to the punch line.

Comment by Daniel W on November 10, 2016 at 6:15pm

I was saddened today listening to some Democrat - not sure who - on the news.  The reporter asked him 3 or 4 times, are the democrats going to distance themselves now, from wall street.  He beat around the bush, hemmed and hawed, and never gave a straight answer.  Which means no, they are not going to distance themselves from wall street, but they wont admit it.

Comment by James on November 10, 2016 at 5:31pm

Fuck establishment Democrats and Republicans who only want to line their fat pockets and those of their lobbying business pals as the quality of life for our generation slowly declines. Pensions? Affordable healthcare? Education? Only for the privileged few now. Bernie was the real deal and would have fought for The People and would have worked to distribute wealth and level the playing field. Such a shame...what a fucking shame. 

Comment by Daniel W on November 9, 2016 at 3:28pm

Jennifer, it's a good point about Democrats putting up a second Republican.  Many regard Clintonism as being a moderate form of Republicanism.

Now that it's said and done, we need to see what happens.

It's long been a concern to me that identity politics, political correctness, and liberal speech control do not play well in Peoria.  Even if those are all well intended.  That, on top of, the working class has been dealt a raw deal for 2 generations, with Reagan's union busting and Clinton's NAFTA.  You can't blame people for reacting in a big way, when the rug is pulled out from under them.  Take away the factories, take away union jobs and benefits, take away securitiy, and continuously deride people as being inferior, and they will jump on whatever bandwagon plays their tune.  That was the Democrat's job.  Which they failed.

Looking at any map of red votes vs. blue votes, county by county, and you see a country that is awash with read, and a few blue island in the red ocean.  No party of the people, which Democrats characterize themselves as being, can ignore and demonize that red ocean and get away with it for a generation. 

As much as I loathe the Trump of the election, now it's done.  I'm worried about the right wing selling us all out to christian imperialists, vast corporate free ride and reductions in equality and liberty.  But we have to see.  The current election is a continuation of Reagan / Bush / Clinton /  Bush with a bit of an interlude by Obama, who was more liberal than the rest, even with his flaws.  The key issue now will be, will Trump and the Rebublican juggernaut really help the economy, and get those vast oceans of red back on track with a good economy and good jobs, or will they do what the Republicans usually do and whore themselves to corporate interests and play to bigotry and religious pandering as diversion.  If they do, and the Red states are economically worse off after 4 years of Trumpism, then  the pendulum might easily swing back to the left again.  I just hope there are some good candidates next time around.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on November 9, 2016 at 3:00pm

Thanks for posting, Jennifer. I feel like the rug has just been pulled out from under me, the country, and the world. There will be damage from this presidency that will be long-lasting and arduous to fix, if we even get the chance.

Comment by Michael Penn on November 9, 2016 at 7:30am

Jennifer, I can agree with you on many things but I think we are in for a hellava ride. Clinton would have been politics as usual with everything predictable, but you said it that people are sick of the Establishment. This is really what got Trump elected. Just how he fairs as POTUS remains to be seen. He may do good, he may do bad. He might find out early that he cannot do exactly what he wants to do and have both sides opposing him on many issues.

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