Exodus: Sit down and shut up, or I'll fucking kill you.

That seems to be the moral message of this entire chapter. Granted, I'm reading from the Brick Testimate, but the pattern is distinct. Every chapter begins with someone complaining about not having enough water or food. Then God talks to Moses. Sometimes Moses actually has to plead with God for mercy (whose idea was it to bring the Iseralites into the desert, again????). Then God kills like thousands of people. When the people are saved from God's wrath, they're saved by Moses. A human!

Not to mention, during the plagues, many passages mention how "Yawheh made the Pharoh stubborn." Whose fucking side is this guy on?

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Comment by Jo Jerome on December 4, 2009 at 12:58pm
--> OutlawGirl:

If it's the one I'm thinking of, I can't remember the guy's name but he does put on a good documentary. Even if he does take the biblical stories a bit too seriously.

The Exodus documentary was hugely popular here with Theists and Atheists alike. Theists because it started with the assumption that Exodus was talking about a real story. Atheists because it follows a solid method for deconstructing myths to find the possible true events behind them.

Among other things, there is no record of Israelites being held captive by the Egyptians. But if you consider that each group might have been referring to each other by different names, then you have the possibility of several different groups, using several different names, all describing the same historical event.

Albeit muddling it and embellishing it in their own way and usually in their own favor.
Comment by Jo Jerome on December 4, 2009 at 12:53pm

Comment by Mihai on December 4, 2009 at 3:55am
I stopped trying to make sense of the Babble, it is pointless; my advice for you is to do the same, it is time-consuming, mind-twisting; I have been a theist myself, and I did not lose anything by leaving faith. There definitely are christians that don't make you want to jump off a bridge. If you have christian friends, then you know where the differences are and simply don't go there.
Comment by OutlawGirl on December 4, 2009 at 3:53am
I saw something on the History Channel about Exodus. There was a record of a war and slaves, or something like that, but the Egyptions called them the Hittites, not the Israelites. At least that's how I remember it.
Comment by Johnny on December 4, 2009 at 3:23am
oh, please, outlaw...

you don't think that old testament sexism beats NT, do you? OT you could sell your daughter into slavery, but NT the wife is ALWAYS the property of the man. She can't even speak without permission and can't learn about god except through man.
Comment by Johnny on December 4, 2009 at 3:19am
Actually, at the time that these events were supposed to happen, the Israelites didn't write them down. I think it's been said to be extremely unlikely that Moses or an eyewitness wrote them based on an analysis of it.

Everybody read Hitchens's book! He points out that their is absolutely no archeological evidence that the Israelites were ever in the desert, much less for 40 decades. On the contrary, it appears that the Israelites lived in Canaan for hundreds of years before the Bible says they did. Exodus was all a myth.
There are no Egyptian records of such a momentous event.
Comment by OutlawGirl on December 3, 2009 at 10:56pm
The Old Testament is a favorite of racists, slave holders, child abusers, wife-beaters, sexists, child abusers, war mongers, psychopaths....

You know, Louis Black is right. Christians have no business interpretting the Old Testament. Why is it that the Jews do just fine with the Old Testamate for the most part but it turns Christians into frothy mouthed bigots?
Comment by Jo Jerome on December 3, 2009 at 10:43pm
Yes, another great hypocrisy from Xians: "We don't follow the Old Testament at all."

Except for Creationism, Noah's flood, the Ten Commandments and the prophecies that prove Jesus really is the messiah. Other than those things being literally true and worthy of shoved in every school child's face until it burns them like the hell they're destined to rot in anyway, we don't pay attention to the Old Testament at all.

Nope. Not at all.
Comment by Howard S. Dunn on December 3, 2009 at 10:38pm
IT's a gonna be fire next time my siblings! Hallelujah for the loving and just god of the NT! Fire, famine, war, pestilence, death and a terrible swift sword 'n' stuff! Watch out! AND yay verily there shall be an awesome sound of global popcorn as millions of Christians vanish and the air implodes into the spaces they leave! And the lion shall lay with the lamb and the lamb shall shit a brick.

Or maybe Join and Daniel did some bad rye and were TRIPPIN'!

Yeah. That's what happened.
Comment by Jon Fleming on December 3, 2009 at 10:08pm
I dont know outlaw as much as he is an twisted fuck in Revelations it has no where neer the twisted emotional and mind games he plays with people as he systematicly*( wow i know the word but not the spelling) kills them in one harsh way or another in the old testament

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