so my drinking issue it was gotten out of hand i gor drunk and fell off the wagon hiring every bump and stone on the road that the wagon was on. i have a hangover that feels like electrical pulses are being  fired off every five seconds. but this is the point in where you find a "higher" power right? god is to life me up and give me salvation no i do not have that luxury. this is simply me giving in to   predisposition a self disruptive vice. but a lesson was learned that i can not play around with this beast anymore that i do need to  place my happy self into rehab and attend  secular sobriety meetings. in my town there are just AA meetings that are laced with religious undertones. so i have to go to the city and attend them. what a shame that AA is so prevalent and secular sobriety is not. a church is on every corner a free thinker is in there house typing away to outer like it is time to take this seriously time to rebuild  my self and go forward. sobriety with out a higher power is real and it is possible.

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Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on May 25, 2011 at 2:55pm
I mean mind-body connection n' all
exercise whenever you wake from slumber... moderation is key to so many a substance.
Comment by Azel Praer on May 14, 2011 at 3:04am
@renshia thank you so much for the words i will look into the book but aa is out the do not shut the fuck up about higher power im a human im my self there for i can not be above my self but i will look in to the book never the less
Comment by Renshia on May 14, 2011 at 2:40am
sobriety without a higher power is real and it is possible.

Damn straight it is. One thing I recommend is looking into is Adult children of alcoholics. There's a book with the same title by Janet Geringer Wotitz. It's a small but incredible aid. There's a part where it where it lists 13 behaviors of an adult child. Just seeing the list and understanding the symptoms can be incredibly helpful in understanding why we do the things we do. It also offers insight and advise you may find helpful even if your not an adult child of an alcoholic. It helped me to understand why, once a year like clock work for about 10 years, my life would self-destruct. Almost every year I would find myself out of work, out on the street, and pawning crap to try and keep it together. The more info you get the more aware of your actions you will become. Don't let guilt crush you when you falter, understand we are damaged and it can be repaired.

I also recommend learning to laugh, It's a great medicine, practice it often.

One thing to remember is if you do want to access the AA meetings, Always remember that you can see yourself as that higher power they claim you so desperately need. It will be you that repairs your life, so you might as well start believing in yourself now and get it over with.

Comment by AgeOfAtheists14 on May 12, 2011 at 8:59pm
could be worse:

but yeah, 86 the pain
cuz we all know what happens when the pain strikes; round mid'age for some...
Comment by Brent Feeney on May 8, 2011 at 12:38am

Azel, not sure if you know about this, but there's a group here at the Nexus called Sober Without Gods. It's been plugged on American Heathen and ShockNet Radio (where several of the personalities have cut PSAs for it). I'm a member of the group (as a show of support for my friends; I have no drug or alcohol problem myself) and would encourage you to check it out. Just look in the Groups section for it.


There is alcoholism that runs in my family, so I have a pretty good idea of what you're going through. Good luck and all the best to you!! =)

Comment by Frankie Dapper on May 6, 2011 at 10:04pm

Hazel without the H,

I wish you luck.

We all have our drugs. Theists have their opiate. Some have hallucinagenic enemas. I like hard exercise followed by coffee. Find your substitute.

Comment by Jedi Wanderer on May 6, 2011 at 9:23pm
I really hope you can stay happy while being sober. I know it is often such a struggle, especially when things aren't going well for you and its hard to feel passionate about life anymore, but its really sad to hear how you've been struggling and I hope you realize that there are people here who do see how valuable you could be, even if the rest of the world doesn't seem to care.



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