People that claim to have experience miraculous healing or giving eye-witness accounts of such, plague me all the time. Now I could write a long-ass blog explaining the many scientific studies done on prayer as well as the power of the mind. namely: the placebo effect. But I won't as I am very tired. There is one simple question however that I ask theists when they mention healing and it is quite simple:

 

Since god is such a miraculous healer, why doesn't he heal amputees?

 

Now you might say oh Antonio what a stupid question, but stop for a moment and think about it. All these so called miracles that happened ALWAYS occur on levels we cannot see. example cancer patients ( I personally know a secular friend who is a cancer survivor, just to prove a point.) as well as people with migraines, high blood pressure, diabetes...it's almost NEVER something superficial. Now ask Mr. Theist, why won't god heal amputees? Are they not worthy of his healing? or is it just that your god is imaginary?

 

sorry for the short, choppy blog but I'm drained

 

good night, and god bless XD

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Comment by John Camilli on June 8, 2011 at 3:52am
booklover, you should quite happy to read this article about type 1 diabetes being reversed in lab mice.
Comment by Antonio Chambers on June 3, 2011 at 11:32am
Your thoughts CAN affect physical reality, this is fact; but not superstition. The example I was giving before of mind-flex, it's a game where you use your brain frequency to increase and decrease the speed of a fan controlling a ball. I've had the pleasure of playing this game and it is truly amazing to see how far science has come, being able to harness the power of the mind.
Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on June 3, 2011 at 11:25am
Thank you.  When my oldest daughter was born, I wanted to donate the placenta and cord to stem cell research.  She was born in a large university hospital, but they didn't even have a stem cell research program.  Four years later, when my youngest was born in a small, community hospital affiliated with the same university, they were begging me for the same thing.  Of course, I was happy to do it.  We are throwing stuff away that could save lives.  How stupid is that?  I get so sick of hearing people say Michael Fox is just selfish for wanting stem cell research.  He's just advocating baby killing.  Blah. Blah. Blah.  Now, this is where religion is stupid.  No matter how many times you tell a religious person with this attitude that a placenta is not a baby and will never be a baby.  It is in fact, post baby waste, and a major source of stem cells for stem cell research, they will still claim all stem cells are from aborted babies.  Grrr!  I get so annoyed with those types.
Comment by Glen Rosenberg on June 3, 2011 at 11:11am

Grace,

I have a friend who used to make wierd complaints about how he was feeling. I was pretty sure it was psychosomatic. The first doc he saw said it was psychosomatic. He said it was MS and unfortunately  the second opinion doc confirmed his suspicion.

And there is harm number 2879 committed by religion-thanks for putting a damper on medicine. The catholic church has been fighting tooth and nail the progress of medicine beginning with early scientists who had to surreptitiously dig up bodies and continuing through to the present with their opposition to stem cell research. Exploration of this topic alone is instructive and reason to fight the church.

I feel a rant coming on. So I will stop and simply wish for science to get a move on and improve your condition.

Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on June 3, 2011 at 10:47am
I'm kind of stuck with whatever the VA wants to do.  I have a lot of hope that stem cell research will be the answer.  MS is another disease no one on earth has ever in its recorded history been healed of.  Even cancer patients get a break every now and then, but if you get neurological disease like MS or Parkinson's, you're just screwed.  No god is going to save you.  Trust me, if there was a god out there who would cure neurological diseases, I would bow down and pray 50 times a day so not another soul had to have MS, Parkinson's or Alzheimer's.
Comment by Glen Rosenberg on June 3, 2011 at 8:38am

Grace,

Have you investigated stem cell treatment for MS? I remember reading something about it.

Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on June 3, 2011 at 3:31am

I think having a positive mindset can help a person to reach their goals and deal with their health problems better.  However, I have an aunt who also has MS and she is the most positive person around, but her MS is still about as bad as it gets in spite of her positive attitude. 

 

As for prayer, it is positive thinking in a way or hoping.  In the sense, it is probably more productive to set your mind on what you want instead of what you don't want.  I don't believe in instantaneous healing though.  Of course, there are a lot of religious people (who don't make it on tv lol) believe that's just snake oil, too.

Comment by John Camilli on June 3, 2011 at 1:55am

Lol, yeah I say go back to leeching people. That was good science!

 

Grace, yeah I wouldn't rely on it either. I think there might be something to the idea that we have limited control over directing the various frequencies given off by our brains, but I would guess its probably a very, very rudamentary control that couldn't really be applied to causing specific things to happen. I don't think it comes anywhere close to something that could be called telekinesis or telepathy, although I do think the potential is there if we find a way boost our broadcast signal, so to speak, with bio-machinery. I wouldn't call it supernatural, but physics pretty much allows that matter and energy can be interchanged from any type to any other type, if we find the right process of manipulation.  

Comment by Glen Rosenberg on June 3, 2011 at 1:11am

John,

You really are working for the other side!

There is one way we can improve the ratio of atheists to theists. Deny medical care. Let the faithful rely on prayer and compare mortality rates. Gee I wonder how that will come out and in the interest of science true believers should have the opportunity to demonstrate the efficacy of prayer. Yeah that's the ticket.

Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on June 3, 2011 at 12:56am
I didn't read the whole thing, John, but that was interesting - especially the part about the chickens.  I raised chickens for awhile and they are not particularly intelligent animals nor would I say they are "psychic".   I do believe in the power of positive thinking and positive action.  When I was writing my master's thesis, I really didn't totally believe I could do it because I have a lot of challenges with MS.   I listened to positive thinking podcasts nearly everyday and sometimes even when I slept.  In spite of my misgivings that I could not finish my thesis, I did and it was extremely well received.  So I have some evidence in my own life that positive thinking works.  However, I have tried to positive think my way out of MS and other health problems.  I have tried to pray them away, have other people try to pray them away for me, and yet they remain slowly getting worse all the time.  I'm not saying it doesn't work at all for improved health, but I wouldn't rely on it totally.

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