Think of the most hideous thing that has ever happened to a single individual or nation. A woman raped and then savagely murdered right in front of her three children, for example. If a "God" really didn't want that to happen, it wouldn't have, would it? Ditto when it comes to the Holocaust and the massive death and suffering caused by "natural" calamities - in fact, all of mankind's suffering
When "the Lord" decided to call that raped and murdered woman "home," to use and example, He picked when, where, and under what conditions she would perish. As for the three traumatized children . . . well, what can one say? They've been pitilessly traumatized for life! Or do I have it wrong here?
His Godness wanted Saul of Tarsus to quit persecuting Christians, didn't he? Took a persecutor (perhaps even a murderer) of Christians and turned him into something altogether different as part of some sort of a divine plan, we are told. Then had the Romans execute him eventually. Or did His Almightiness not want that to happen?
So much for free-will, eh'?
Rough stuff here, I know. It's actually unpleasant to post these kind of thoughts due to its sensitive nature and the honest desire not to offend Christians of noble heart and conscience. But there are some crazy-ass theists out there that actually believe we atheists to be inherently evil, yet worship and adore the Creator of evil - that would be "God" - and look down their collective noses at us (or far worse) for not doing so as well. On top of that, expecting us all the while to believe in imaginary creatures not a one of em' can actually prove exist!
Or am I off-base here?
Greywolf's - meaning Lawrence Flowers' 1st Dictum:There can be no greater evil in the world than the Creator of Evil. The conscious, deliberate act of creating evil is, in itself, inherently evil. End of story.
Greywolf's 2nd Dictum: If it happened, God wanted it to. If He didn't, it would never have happened. (Assuming the creature God actually exists, of course.) Note:This would include every human tragedy, every evil to befall man. Would it not? - A sobering conclusion that needs to be honestly addressed by brave, uncompromising, minds in their quest for the truth.
For more on the theological aspects concerning thel origin of evil,
For an example of my genuine respect for the "good" Christians we live among - though still harboring a staggeringly great difference of opinion within,