A short while ago on Facebook, a 'friend' posted:
"If violence, wars, murders, poverty & disease could be prayed away, don't you think it would have been gone hundreds of years ago? If everything that happens is Gods will, why get upset? Why rebuild where "God" keeps destroying? And if that wasn't God, how do you tell the difference?
No need to respond with more conditioned BS! Just something to think about and I decided to share my thoughts!"
Good questions. Of course it elicited some interesting replies, including the following from one person in particular. These are not edited, but shared as written.
"God permits bad things to happen so that we can learn. ..God destroys our dwellings to demonstrate for us that we are not permitted to live there or be there permanently. ..."
"God permitting mistakes and bad things to happen so that we can learn isn't a bad thing....and natural disasters are warnings for us to live elsewhere....which also is not God doing anything bad"
At that point I thought I'd weigh in with a rather irreverent take on things. So I said, "God let's bad things happen to prove Santa is so much nicer. Well, OK, there's also that little thing about He doesn't exist, too." From that point on, things took off with this particular fellow, whom I shall call KT.
"just when I thought it couldn't get worst here he comes with comparing God to a fat white fictional character smh thanks Derek"
Thinking he was being light-hearted, I replied, "Well, one fictional character is as good as the next." My mistake!
"ARE YOU REFERRING TO GOD AS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER ...? THAT WOULD BE QUITE STUPID IF YOU WERE........BECAUSE HOW ELSE DO YOU EXPLAIN THE PRESENCE AND PERFECT BALANCE OF THE BILLIONS OF INDEPENDENT / SEPERATE LIFE FORMS THAT SURROUND YOU EVERYDAY? THINK ABOUT IT..... A HUMAN CANT EVEN MAKE A BLADE OF GRASS.....@DEREK"
Yup. I got the ALL CAPS treatment. The person who made the original post replied: "Nothing said here is stupid! People have a right to believe what they choose & there is something called science! We all should question our belief. IMO"
I thought I would apologize for being the cause of the tirade on her post.
"I apologize for KT's 'shouting' on your post. As the cause of such juvenile behaviour, I will not respond to further comments. It always saddens me to try to have a light-hearted but rationale conversation with people who would seem to be afraid of questions. "There are none so blind as those who will not see." Peace."
Well, sound the bell and go at 'er, boys! KT came out swinging with a one-two punch.
"BEHAVIOR***YOU DO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT TEXT HAS NO VOICE/SOUND RIGHT DEREK?IM TYPING IN CAPS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IM TOO DAMN LAZY TO HIT THE CAP LOCK BUTTON...FYI...DEREK ...BLACK FOLKS LIKE MYSELF USUALLY START SWEARING WHEN WE WANNA GET LOUD ...WE DONT NORMALLY TYPE IN CAPS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT....AND I THINK YOU WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE IN APOLOGIZING FOR YOURSELF AND NOT FOR ANOTHER MAN...LASTLY WHERE I GREW UP THIS IS A LIGHT HEARTED CONVO.."
"I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU DEREK BEFORE I FORGET YOU EVER EXISTED....WHY/HOW DO YOU FEEL SO SUPERIOR AND/OR ABOVE ME THAT YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY BEHAVIOR WHEN YOU CANT EVEN SPELL "BEHAVIOR" CORRECTLY? NO NEED TO RESPOND BECAUSE THIS IS VERY TYPICAL IN AMERICA .........I CALL IT " THE TRAILER PARK DOOR OPENS AGAIN"..AND THATS WHEN SUBSTANDARD PEOPLE FEEL EQUIVALENT AND/OR SUPERIOR TO THOSE WHO HAVE 20 TIMES THEIR EDUCATION."
Apparently done with me, KT turned his views of the world on the science comment noted by the original poster.
"Science claims Bees are not flying..yet they don't care to explain how its moving with feet off the ground..that we evolved from apes yet they can not explain why the apes stopped evolving...that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs yet they cant explain how the asteroid discriminated ..by . killing certain species and not others...turtles..alligators. ..snakes, , most birds...lizards...etc still exist while all the very mobile predatory ones vanished. ..so yes I know that something called science.But..I'm not silly enough to follow them and their ridiculous facts that change every other week."
At least he found the caps lock key and stopped shouting. But what can you say in the face of such raging ignorance? I did not intend to reply at all after his first tirade, but when I went to get a copy of it to share with some atheist friends, I noted his next comment on my spelling of 'behavior' and his criticism of science. I don't care if he calls me names, but don't ever call me out for spelling 'behaviour' with the 'u' as that's the way we roll in the Commonwealth; and don't EVER dis science!
So I replied with a promise that I never would again after this one. And I'll stick to that promise. Here's what I said:
"KT, thank you for your lovely example of Christ's love. (Mark 12:31) I said I wasn't going to comment any further, but as I am quoting you to share some of the challenges facing Christianity today in a blog for atheists, I came back to copy your comments so I can get them down exactly. And, no, I'm not using your name. I would not do that to you. Now I find myself feeling sorry for you. You seem so full of anger, so bitter and unable to cope with anyone who expresses disagreement with you.
"Additionally, I can see now that your knowledge of science, evolution and the world outside of your apparent comfort zone is limited. For example, you've noted that I can't spell 'behavior' correctly, implying there is something wrong with my intelligence as a result. Dear, KT, you apparently live a very U.S.-centric life. That's OK. Nothing wrong with it. However, please note that the spelling you use for 'behavior' is American. In England, where the language originated, it's spelled 'behaviour.' 'Color' is 'colour'. 'Neighbor' is 'neighbour.' Hopefully, this clears up that lack of understanding on your part.
"I know you will not follow any suggestion I make, but I encourage you to find and read a good book that explains evolution. Everything you've said is wrong and consists of the usual errors shared by those who deny without understanding. KT, this is my last comment. I promise. So feel free to say whatever you want. Call me names. Say I'm substandard. Whatever you feel compelled by Christ to express. Or forget I ever existed. :) You likely won't believe me, but I do wish you all the best."
And I do feel sorry for people who are so caught up in their religion that it blinds them to the natural wonders of the universe that exist without needing creation by a god or gods.