1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

I recently heard of news being made about people deciding to live together than marry. I found this article by googling "marriage decline" - http://www.suite101.com/content/where-are-all-the-married-people-a1...

What is your oppinion on marriage as an atheist? What are the reasons why or why not to be married compared to a couple who lives together. I personally cannot think of any reason why to be married legally. Can you?

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Comment by Earther on December 5, 2010 at 8:18pm
Marriage by law reduces your fears, pain, skepticisms in a relationship? Marriage by law makes marriages last longer and strengthens the bond? I could trade rings and vowels such as not cheating and sharing our wealth in a non-marriage relationship. I am trying to bust the myth that marriage creates the glue. I am trying to bust the myth because it is the religious society who created the laws and social stigma of relationships.
Comment by Earther on December 5, 2010 at 7:47pm
Erin, that seems like a positive. Just think if they made religion a legal bond and you must get a divorce from the church in the court of law if you decide you did not belong to it any longer. I know that is a stretch but my point is civil rights to all people who become involved in a relationship. The protection should be to the individuals health and property no matter how you are in a relationship. Property can be divided the same as is today. The people look for what is yours and what is theirs justly, terms of the relationship can be discussed in years and decisions made. Married couples who divorce do this, so can non-married couples do this.
Comment by Earther on December 5, 2010 at 6:02pm
While I don't necessarily agree with that stance, you're taking what she's saying out of context....

Ask yourself why married couples have, if so, more rights than non-married couples. Do individuals have rights to make financial contracts? Can individuals create a legal will to care for others after death?
Comment by Earther on December 5, 2010 at 5:55pm
Erin, if you are in a relationship for ten years and not married and then you decide to end it, how is that different than those who are married for ten years and end it?
Comment by Earther on December 4, 2010 at 9:45am
Dyann, I think financial reasons are the top reasons, aside from personal mental health, for the success of cohabitation. I know that may sound cold but with out a growing economic growth in a relationship there will be enough hardship that breaks the bond of a relationship. Do couples who have nothing still make it in a relationship? Yes, but... the "nothing" really is not nothing. If a couple is surviving it is because of human growth which ultimately turns into financial gain. Please rethink your last statement - No, I don't think unmaried people( no matter what orientation) should have legal rights. Everyone has legal rights in America that is a law abiding citizen - Everyone. Two strangers could write up a legal contract in a business relationship to build, and both are responsible to pay its debts.
Comment by Earther on December 3, 2010 at 4:10pm
Glen, "just do it"? If I just do it I feel somewhat like I am adding to the theist party problem, if that makes any sense. I know what you mean though, if you want to get married then just do it.

Aaron and Dyann, don't you think the legal benifits should extend to non married partners? I am concerned that we are over looking some civil rights here.

Adrianne, your problem is not marriage, really it is being with the wrong person. Marriage may also be a problem though in the sense of laws that make it financially and socially difficult to part from a marriage (relationship) that doesn't forfill your needs of a life partner.

Dyann, I understand getting a loan is important but after the recent American recession/depression I am not sure if getting a loan is all it is made up to be.
Comment by Adrianne on December 3, 2010 at 3:27am
Here in lies the problem, he doesn't practice any christian ways, but he believes in a god that I don't and therefore I get sick and tired of hearing "Your gonna burn in hell for all eternity"................. what the hell are you talkin about? My ears burned up a long time ago.....................
Comment by Adrianne on December 3, 2010 at 3:25am
Well, let me just say that after nearly a decade of marriage, I can see the benefits of not taking the big leap. I can honestly say that there is no way I would ever take the vows again.
Comment by Aaron S. (USA) on December 3, 2010 at 1:39am
Well, practically there are some legal benefits, like hospital visitations, child custody, etc... but you could probably set that stuff up without a marriage (it'd just be more trouble).

Personally, I'd like to be 'married', even if it didn't involve some kind of registration with the government. I think the ceremony or celebration, the official pronouncement of "togetherness" would be a very good experience for me (if I had someone I felt that way about).
Comment by Frankie Dapper on December 2, 2010 at 11:23pm
joint returns, nagging, acrimonious divorce,
Although atheists who smash their theist partner's world view can complete the fairy tale the way they envisioned as little girls. Oh no. Church wedding-fuggedaboutit. Best reason-just do it.



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