I have had many friends who also happen to be black. When I interacted with them, there was never a feeling of me against him/her. I never had a racist thought let alone a racist agenda. I never felt that there wasn't a "we" when I was with them. I am about in the middle of this video: Dialogue of Reason: Science and Faith in the Black Community. So far in this video, I noticed the blacks in this video using separatist language like "my brothers and sisters" and "African Americans" so much so that it made me feel uncomfortable. It made me feel that I would not be welcome among them, or if I was allowed to be among them, I would not be trusted because to them I am not one of them.

Starting at around 31:44 minutes into the video, Dr. Anthony Pinn explains the reasons why society is the way it is today and why the black community has not gotten what they expected from the Civil Rights movement. I think that the reasons he states fuel the separation of the "races". The reasons are all religion based.

Below is the video:

What do think of Dr. Pinn's opinions? Is the current separatist language really the way to go for blacks?

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Comment by Rob van Senten on January 2, 2012 at 8:55am

Black people identify as black people for many reasons. I would like to think that it is partially due to the fact that society in general treats them as "black people". White people might be treated based upon their clothing, age etc. but if you're black (in many countries at least) that will always be how people will see you, and treat you. People draw strength and unity from sharing with people that are in the same situation and that suffer the same plight. 

However, minorities often enforce the stereotypes that they suffer from too. Simple things such as words that are only to be said by people of a certain race/skin color do enforce negative stereotypes for instance. 

From my own personal experience it seems to be that groups of minorities that are complaining about society not being inclusive enough to them, are also quite good at being non-inclusive to other people themselves.

We're all people after all, and we're not immune to human stupidity (yet).

Comment by Cane Kostovski on January 2, 2012 at 7:12am

John D, maybe that's the problem. That they have to identify themselves as a separate group all the time in any context.  There is a problem that nobody seems to care about. The two responses I got so far are "What are you smokin?" and "I don't see a problem". Those responses help show the state of racism in society. Because, it is human nature to define us and them there are discussions here in A/N about atheists being smarter than theists. To even ask that question, there must have been a noticeable difference in someone's mind to cause them to ask that question. 

I watch Dr. Tyson on youtube and PBS whenever I can because I have great respect for the man who is very intelligent among a host of other positive traits. When he talked about science in a conversation with Professor  Richard Dawkins, Dr. Tyson was describing how the tools of science have allowed us to "see" what our 5 senses cannot ever "see". Science augments our senses. I wait for the day when science augments our positive traits and suppresses our negative traits.

Comment by Frankie Dapper on January 1, 2012 at 9:02pm

I am saying there was not a hint of excluding others, not that I could detect.

Comment by Cane Kostovski on January 1, 2012 at 8:44pm

@Glen - Huh?

Comment by Frankie Dapper on January 1, 2012 at 7:57pm

Cane, what you smokin man? Did not get any of the vibe you did.



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