Living in Indiana, whenever I go to the grocery store on Sundays I am reminded of how my rights have been compromised by the religious. I am unable to buy liquor on Sundays. While it may seem a minor inconvenience, it is a concrete and glaring manifestation of a failure of separate of church and state. To quote the wikipedia article on blue laws:

Many states still prohibit selling alcohol on Sunday, or at least before noon on Sunday, under the rationale that people should be in church on Sunday morning, or at least not drinking.

This law is outdated and needs to be changed.


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Comment by Buford Twain on November 8, 2008 at 3:58pm
Ziggy: That is nuts telling you to leave your 1 year old child outside! In my case, the clerk commiserated with me and said she thought the law was idiotic. But, she had to obey...

JP: There are definitely folks in other areas of the country more afflicted than us Hoosiers in Indiana. We need to stick together and push back, things don't usually change for the better all by themselves.

"He that will not reason is a bigot;
he that cannot reason is a fool;
he that dares not reason is a slave."
-William Drummond
Comment by Buford Twain on November 8, 2008 at 2:16pm
Michael: Accepting limited rights (no matter how slightly limited) is a really bad idea.

I have long thought to myself "I guess I'm OK with others having their religion, as long as it does not compromise the rights of others". The trouble is, god-fearing folk DO compromise the rights of others and they believe they have a strong mandate to do so (god).

Comment by JP on November 8, 2008 at 12:03pm
Things could be worse Indiana. In Oklahoma we have same but, you can NEVER get liquor or beer stronger than 3.2% anywhere but a package store. Even then, they're not allowed to sell it cold. In KS and TX you can get liquor/beer anytime anywhere...even on sunday praiz jeebus. (at least in KS) anyway. I'm disgusted by it as well.
Comment by Buford Twain on November 8, 2008 at 11:58am
Buffy: atheists need to organize better to fight for our civil rights and the civil rights of gay people and other victims of discrimination.

Another thing that I forgot to mention - the other day when I went into the liquor store for some beer I had my 12 year old son with me. He was REFUSED ENTRY to the store. Why?? The religious, again. Apparently, this is another law in Indiana. And what do they think is going to happen when I get home? Why, I am going to drink a beer, IN FRONT OF MY CHILD. Shock and horror!

Jared: No way Jose, I am not moving. I will stand my ground and try to change things instead.
Comment by Jared on November 8, 2008 at 3:23am
That's fucking disgusting; I'd move.
Comment by Buffy on November 8, 2008 at 12:26am
But they're just standing up for what they believe in. Why do you think your desire to drink should outweigh their right to express their "deeply held religious beliefs"? They have the 1st Amendment after all....

Yeah, I've been hearing that and more from the Yes on 8 camp because I have the audacity to stand up for my rights. But it's fitting in this case too. They're always the good guys just "standing up for what they believe in" and we're the sinful, evil, immoral people trying to cause the downfall of this great Christian Nation. Why does nobody see the lunacy of turning this into exactly what the original settlers came here to escape--a state run religious tyranny?



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