#Phe - NOMA- na!# Doot doo dee doo-doo.

Am going to spend this afternoon in the company of a friend from work, a muslim as it happens, and as part of Cambridge University's "Festival of Science" - I am going today to see a talk/debate: "

"Can we live in a world of non-overlapping magisteria?"

with atheist comedian Robin Ince as chair.  Should be good.


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Comment by Richard ∑wald on March 19, 2012 at 11:24am

I think Gould's "non-overlapping magisteria" was probably his second biggest "blunder". On par I think, with Dawkins' "Spectrum of Theistic Probability". Well intentioned, but in the end …utterly useless proposals.

Comment by Richard Healy on March 17, 2012 at 8:06pm
At SB,

I always liked it in "Jaws" when Quint drops the shark cage while loading it onto the boat before the set off and let's rip with a "Somofabitch!"


okay so to answer myself the last page and a bit has been a report on events and brief and enjoyable tangent into creative cursing.
Comment by Richard Healy on March 17, 2012 at 8:01pm
Steph, what do you think the last page and a bit of comments is about?
Comment by Steph S. on March 17, 2012 at 4:49pm
I'm with Sandi - would you please post an update - I want to know how it went.
Comment by Daniel W on March 17, 2012 at 4:20pm

I think I need to start saying "hellfire and buggery" around here.  It will make me sound so cultured and worldly.

Comment by Richard Healy on March 17, 2012 at 3:34pm
"Hellfire and Buggery" is a favoured phrase, round these parts. ;) Say with with a growl and with gusto and it really does the job.
Comment by Daniel W on March 17, 2012 at 3:29pm

I love that you say "Bugger".  It's so English.

Comment by Daniel W on March 17, 2012 at 3:28pm

Do images of Jesus on toast and tortillas count as revelations?  Maybe that's what god has been reduced to.  I could add images of Jesus on dog anuses (and that is really one of the most effective that I have seen) but god wouldn't do that so it's a human visual illusion.

I don't get why everyone thinks THEY have the right religion and everyone else has the wrong religion.  It's like arguing whether Picard or Kirk is the most effective starship commander on Star Trek.

Comment by Richard Healy on March 17, 2012 at 3:22pm
Afterwards me and my friend from work segued to a nandos (i.e for a rather nice chicken ceaser salad, he for a burger that took forever to arrive) - to continue the disucssion. We both agreed that Christianity makes no sense. He however hasn't read the Old Testament and I haven't read the Qur'an so we are going to swap. I'll give him my bible and in return I'll get a qur'an to read.

We had one amusing exchange talking about 'revelation': - wouldn't it be good he suggested if we could have another to settle the matter? I agreed - it would be very useful, and isn't it odd that all the really impressive miracles kind of stop once we enter into historical periods of people writing stuff down?

"Of course" he pointed out, "we muslims believe the qur'an is the last revelation and so completes Christianity."

He didn't take too kindly to my pointing out that The Mormons can now lay claim to the latest revealed religion.

"but that's so obviously false" he protested.

I agreed: "I'm just saying if I go by not what I think is ridiculous but taking these professions of faith at their word, then Joseph Smith received the most recent revelation from abrahamic divine agencies, who told him where the golden plates were buried and how to translate them.

"Yeah but not many people believe that!"

Not the point! I replied and they have a presidential candidate so it's not an insignificant belief - my point is only if we go by what was revealed when then The Mormons, excuse me, The Church of the Latter Day Saints are the most recent. Now if you're asking, I think Mormonism is so transparently a fraud perpetrated by a conman is becuase it is so recent - the reason why I think the myths of other religions gain more credence is mainly becuase they are older and so harder to determine exactly what happened.
Comment by Daniel W on March 17, 2012 at 3:06pm

I think my head would have exploded.  Listening to deluded people arguing with deluded people would give me a panic attack, at least.  I would rather watch monkeys fight over a banana.  


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