"...But if you want everlasting life, that’s a completely different issue, and that’s where Christianity is unique. Almost all religions are what are called “works righteousness” religions. By that I mean they maintain that you have to do something to merit salvation (eternal life). However, Christianity says that we can’t do that because we are criminals in God’s eyes, who have seriously violated His Law. That means that anything we try and do to please God (fasting, praying, etc.) are not seen by Him as good works, but as detestable attempts to bribe the Judge of the Universe. The only thing that can save any of us from the terrible consequences of violating His Law, is His love and mercy. God Himself provided a Savior for the entire world..." Ray Comfort Creationist Examiner

Wow this stuff is gold. We are criminals in God's eyes. All of us. Newborn babies taking their first breath are criminals.

I'm astonished that anyone would actively want to take part in a religion so sadistic, or that anyone who believed this would want to bring children into the world.

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Comment by Rosemary LYNDALL WEMM on February 19, 2009 at 11:03am
Thanks, Felch. What a horrifically loony bunch. I shudder.
Comment by Kristine Robinson on February 19, 2009 at 7:30am
Thank you for the links, Felch, they were very informative. A year ago I'd never even have thought of looking for any of this. It's strange how letting go of religion meant that suddenly I could see a lot more of its workings.

I find the modes of thought that lead people to contemplate these things terribly disturbing. Particularly the Elisha's Mantle stuff on prenatal wounding... people have enough to carry without adding the burden of having to control their own thought processes whilst pregnant.
Comment by Rosemary LYNDALL WEMM on February 19, 2009 at 1:32am
Hey Felch, be fair. That's not what was said. Read the article again. The author quotes two contradictory prophets on the subject. Then says that Jesus did not agree with either or them.

Of course, the story is not a good argument for the inerrancy of the Bible. Remember that mainstream (especially non-US Christians) don't believe that anyway.
Comment by Buffy on February 19, 2009 at 12:32am
That's really screwed up. But then again when you believe in a sadist who sent himself to be brutally killed to save you from himself, pretty much anything goes.
Comment by cj the cynic on February 18, 2009 at 7:51pm
He's so masochistic, it's almost kinky. Almost.



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