"Sadism involves gaining pleasure from seeing others undergo pain or discomfort. It's the way in which individuals not only display, but also take enjoyment in committing sadistic acts. Individuals possessing sadistic personality display recurrent cruel behavior and aggression."
"Sadism include the use of emotional cruelty, purposefully manipulating others through the use of fear, and a preoccupation with violence."

If some one convicted with crime then punishment will be equal to crime, but how about god?
Let us take a look of the verses and word TASTE

"Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise."
Quran 4:56

"Indeed, the tree of zaqqum
Is food for the sinful.
Like murky oil, it boils within bellies
Like the boiling of scalding water
[It will be commanded], "Seize him and drag him into the midst of the Hellfire,
Then pour over his head from the torment of scalding water."
[It will be said], "Taste! Indeed, you are the honored, the noble!"
Quran 44:44 - 44:49

"The Day when it will be heated in the fire of Hell and seared therewith will be their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, [it will be said], "This is what you hoarded for yourselves, so taste what you used to hoard."

Notice the hate against nobel(wise) and wealthy people.

"And if you could but see when the angels take the souls of those who disbelieved... They are striking their faces and their backs and [saying], "Taste the punishment of the Burning Fire.
That is for what your hands have put forth [of evil] and because Allah is not ever unjust to His servants."
This only sample of the verses but there are hundreds.
So that is justice in the eye of god,

So what about good people who didn't commit sins but they are disbelieves.

"But those who disbelieved - their deeds are like a mirage in a lowland which a thirsty one thinks is water until, when he comes to it, he finds it is nothing but finds Allah before Him, and He will pay him in full his due; and Allah is swift in account."

So for god it's not about how people treat each other's , it's only if you believe in god or not. That's because those who believe in god all their sin can be forgiven.

"Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful."
This merciful only for believers.
So apparently people in justice day only punished for being disbelievers.
This is the only sin considered by god, or actually by writer who only concern that people be believers for political reasons.
Of course for those who read these verses day and night this sadistic behavior will be projected to the way they see others.
And the worse when these verses given to children in school classes.
I'm not taking specific culture I'm taking about religion, about these verses been studied in mosques in London or Ankara or Islamabad or Berlin or any city in the world of any nationality.

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Comment by Rick Springfield on August 11, 2014 at 5:10am
Comment by Luara on August 4, 2014 at 11:55am

Maybe it should be regarded as a crime to indoctrinate children in a religion and not teach them the theory of evolution.  Better schooling would be a better answer than throwing the parents in jail, though.

He was reacting to what Dawkins said.  What Dawkins actually said:   "What a child should never be taught is that you are a Catholic or Muslim child, therefore that is what you believe. That's child abuse."
Dawkins also said that forcing a religion on children without questioning its merits is as bad as 'child abuse' and that he was against the 'indoctrination of religion' and teaching it as fact.

Comment by Rick Springfield on August 4, 2014 at 11:05am
I think he is referring to a debate where many women who been under both sexual abuse and religious abuse in their childhood confirmed that reiougous abuse worse than sexual abuse and last longer, and if this proofed scientifically then he think it will be serous crime.
I know many religious who believe that non believers are the fuel of hell.
Comment by Luara on August 4, 2014 at 10:26am

I get in dialogues online with religious people, where I do Socratic questioning over their beliefs. 

One of these people has obvious psychological problems.  Extreme fear and anxiety.  He's paranoid - just hanging on. 

He believes that atheists want to put religious people in concentration camps.  I told him I have never heard any atheist saying that. 

He said that Dawkins thinks it's child abuse for religious people to bring children up in their faith; so that implies religious parents who do this should be put in jail; there wouldn't be enough jails to hold all those religious parents, so there would have to be concentration camps for them. 

I told him what Dawkins did say, and that I've never heard Dawkins or anyone saying that religious parents who try to indoctrinate their children should be jailed. 

This person is a Christian. 

But he probably believes in hell for nonbelievers. 

Hell is like the ultimate concentration camp.  Only it's God who would put the nonbelievers in hell, that shifts the responsibility so the believers don't have to feel guilty about the sadism. 



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