Scriptural Innaccuracy Plagues Christianity

It is a fact that nobody knows what the original scribes who authored the Bible were really thinking.

As with all written documents concerning people and times, meanings of words, their emphasis and context change with time.This is only considering the original texts.

Then there are the translations and editorship of these texts, which add, subtract and distort the original texts.

Such translations occurred to the old testament in in the 200 years BC and Ptolemy Philadelphus, provided editorship when he commissioned the Septuagint when he employed 70 translators, which likely were guided to swing the general direction of the scripture towards his political views and biases, just as

 Constantine I commissioned the new testament for his own political objectives.

So, essentially we have loss of clarity and context with time in interpreting the original scriptures, add to that the gains, losses, distortion from translation, and then add into the formula, the occasional re-translation or adjustments by leaders to serve their political objectives and you end up with scripture that is massively different in meaning and context to the original scripture.

Now, to further drive the scriptures away from the original meaning and context that the naive goat/sheep herder authors had in their minds, we complicate it far further by introducing separate biblical translations and rewording to suit particular groups, like bibles designed for easy reading, subset of the population and particular church viewpoint.

Thus we end up with a whole host of scripture that has very little resemblance to the original texts, and yet they claim to believe the same as the original scribes, when in fact, they cannot possibly do, since they have absolutely no idea of the concepts in the minds of the originators of the bible.

Though, Christians cannot accept that their concepts regarding the old testament may not be truthful, nor a rational consideration from the critics of the bible could be the real truth.

Christians really need to realize that the old testament is poorly understood, even by their highest theologians, as time and human manipulation have rendered these sets of books as completely inaccurate and severely distorted representations of the original documents.

They should only concentrate on the new testament On which Christianity is based), which also suffers much of the same distortion, though, at least the time since origination is shorter, giving a smaller amount of distortion.

Yet, still, even in the new testament, there is enough conflict and irrationality to be a concern for any open minded, intelligent human to consider dropping it altogether.

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Comment by tom sarbeck on November 18, 2013 at 11:51am

All religions believe it's OK to lie if it gains a convert or benefits god.

Governments do the same to gain cannon fodder and consenting consumer/taxpayers.

Comment by Michael Penn on November 18, 2013 at 7:58am

Problems here with any of this "religion stuff" is where it all started. When man learned of his consciousness he was also aware of his dream state. Rather than realize that his mind never fully sleeps as his body is laying there, man decided that he has a "soul" or "spirit" that travels about into other realms while he sleeps. I call this the beginning of true dualism. Now man knows that there are 2 of him. This part of him "came from god" and it's something that he thinks all the other animals do not have. Man is special so he quickly invents god and starts in making up many different mythologies. This in some form is still going on today.

What about your soul or spirit? YOU are the soul and spirit. Add crazy numbers and biblical trinities, etc. and you get body, mind, (soul) and spirit just like you get "scriptural" father, son, and holy ghost. This is yet another "proof" to the gullible that god exists and that he created man in his image.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 16, 2013 at 12:46am

True Dennis, it's the same with all religions, they make it up as they go along. Bugger the Scriptures, we'll add our own doctrines as well.

Joseph Smith (Mormonism)  is a classic tale of adding personal doctrines into Christianity and then still claiming to be Christians.  Suddenly Christianity has a lot of new followers like a non-existent tribe of natives that suddenly disappeared of the face of the planet Earth, meeting Jesus was good for them, Aye!  LOL

Mohammad did the same thing, I'm only a prophet, (LOL) oh, I'm being talked about for marrying a 9 year old girl, Allah now (suddenly) wants all women to hide themselves in public.

Mostly it is about saving of face for the priests, prophets or to steal members to start another self made religion, such as in Smith's case.

Comment by Michael Penn on November 15, 2013 at 5:44pm

All religions believe it's OK to lie if it gains a convert or benefits god. They deny this, but you can look it up in past writings. Luther even believed it.

When I lived in Texas I went to a fundy church that believed the age of accountability was 13. If a child died earlier than that, or died as a baby, there was just no heaven or resurrection for that child. The minister's son was coming to church as a guest but he was not a member. His minister dad wanted him to be, and recently the son and his wife had a baby that had died. That day the minister preached that "we will all see that baby again in heaven."

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 15, 2013 at 5:22pm

Thinking of polytheism morphing into monotheism. 

Catholicism continually does this, in one sermon there are three gods, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and then in the very next sermon, they are suddenly morphed into a single god.

So Catholicism is Polytheism, monotheism, polytheism, ohh, I give up, lets just call it pseudo-monotheism.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 15, 2013 at 5:17pm

True Tom, Though in the media, such Fundy's have been digging at each other for centuries over who has the true word of god.

Many Christian fundy's claim their bible is the only inerrant version, and many claim that the "King James Version" is the only true bible.

Yet, they are all errant and no single Fundy has even the slightest morsel of evidence supporting their scripture as inerrant.  All are choc full of errors, contradictions and idiotic parables.

So, yes it is fun watching them battle it out for who has the only true Bible.

But, it usually ends in a truce, where both agree to disagree, and it is the work of Satan in trying to deceive one of the parties into false beliefs.

They never admit the actual truth, that they both are entirely wrong and delusional in accepting deceitfully contrived collections of poorly translated documents as being infallible divine truth.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 15, 2013 at 5:06pm

Thanks Bud, very interesting, I hadn't read that research, though I gather it is highly probable that many of the writings collected for worship of the monotheistic megalomaniac, had actually been created for subservience to other gods, simply by claiming there is only one god, polytheism suddenly morphs into monotheism.

It's all just a play on words, and deception by those wanting the power over humanity that monotheism offers.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on November 15, 2013 at 5:00pm

LOL Dennis, yes, on one of the papers I was doing history research for the local unions, I would so often come across comments like: "Brown slut found on the corner of Lonsdale and Collins street.   In those days it meant that somebody had found a brown female dog wandering the area.  These days, it would have the police looking for prostitution there.

I found doing such research very interesting, there are many examples of such changes in the meaning of words and phrases over just 100 years, imagine the difference 1000 years would make.

Another example is during the days of horse and cart, where there was little communication between disparate cities like say Sydney and Melbourne, apart from mail by horseback.

These cities developed almost completely different languages, when rail travel arrived and we met people from Sydney in Melbourne, some hotel owners reported great difficulty in understanding their Sydney clients.

It was almost like they spoke a different language.

So even a century of separation can change how language is used in a society or colony.

Comment by Michael Penn on November 15, 2013 at 6:09am

A lot of what you're saying is true, DOG, and often somebody might even use Mose's name on some writing just to give that writing authority. As for word meanings changing, Andy Williams had a song in the 1960's where he "remembered a time that we were all happy and gay."

Comment by tom sarbeck on November 15, 2013 at 2:10am

We've probably all heard Texans brag about their state. A favorite prank while in the Navy was to set an East Texan to arguing with a West Texan about which part of their state was better than the other.

Since xn fundies believe every word of their bibles, can we set two fundies who use different bibles to arguing about which one is the infallible word of god?



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